Edit in Photoshop without creating a copy

Just wondering if I'm missing something? Can one edit a RAW file in Lightroom and then open in Photoshop without creating a copy before opening? I sometimes wish to open and manually save a copy from photoshop after I'm done editing. It seems there is no way around this. Assuming I can't, and have all these photoshop copies, can I then filter the view to show just the photoshop copies (.psd's in my case)?
I appreciate anyone's help on this.
Thanks-
Scott

Alost a FAQ but anyway. There is no way to do this directly, but you can right-click (control click on the mac if you do not have a multibutton mouse) on an image in the browser module and select show in finder/explorer. The RAW file will pop up, which you can then simply open in ACR/photoshop. If you save metadata to file in LR before you do this, you even get all the Lightroom adjustements in the ACR interface. After editing in Photoshop, you can save a psd whereever you want and import into LR. You can show all psds in Lightroom by simply selecting the psd format in the metadata browser.

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