Edit-in-place over Ethernet

I know the Admin Guide recommends against it but I'm thinking that if I make an XServe the head of a 8TB raid via Fibre then connect the XServe to the network, sharing the drives over AFP on our GbE network, we should have plenty of throughput for 10 workstations to edit SD. Am I'm crazy to assume this? Then I can just connect any HD clients I need directly via Fibre.
Before shutting it down, consider that for the past 4 years we've used a Windows 2000 server with RAID storage attached via a single GB link to a switch that connected to 10 clients. No problem with SD, but this was Avid. Do you guys think Avid has some magic or the math on this just works?
Thoughts? Suggestions? Success stories? Horror stories?

I am looking at doing the same thing but do not have enough infomation yet.
Currently, I have a Win2003 server with 15 terabyte raid 60. I use 10Gb CX4
from the server to a HP Procurve switch. It's gigabit (Cat6) to the clients.
There are 10 Avid and 3 Final Cut and we currently edit standard def DV25.
The HP switch (currently 2 10GB ports and 96 gigabit ports) also handles all of my other computers (PC and Apple). Graphics, audio editing, websurfing, etc. without any problems.
We do NOT share projects. Everyone has their own folder on the server. I was told this would not work when I built it 2 years ago but it works great!
I am now going to change everything to Final Cut, install FC Server and shooting HDV. So can I ignore Fibre Channel and build a another system with ethernet? I'm about to find out.
Bill

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Edit-in-place NOT working...

I've recently installed FCS at our small shop. I've read the Geller book, followed the Admin manual, and pretty much have gotten it to work.
However, I can't get "edit in place" to work. It did work when I initially installed the system and tested it. And now, after a complete re-install, it doesn't work.
I am using two local RAIDs. Each have a media directory that I set up as a device. For example:
One device is called "Mojo Project Media 02"
In the Device Pane (on the Admin / Client Java Interface) the Local Directory reads:
"/Volumes/RAID_02/Mojo Project Media 02"
So the Mac edit-in-place URI reads:
"file://localhost/Volumes/RAID_02/Mojo Project Media 02"
I can't get the edit in place URI to not ad "localhost" but I don't think this should matter.
Whenever I try to move media into a Browser Window from FCS, it tells me I must copy it to my local cache first. This didn't happen when I first installed/configured the system.
Can you not set up edit-in-place for a local directory (ie. a volume locally attached to the server with FCS installed)?
I know it worked before. Is there something I am missing?

Thanks A. Richards.
After much testing, I realized that on the FCSr machine that it indeed had edit-in-place status because of the storage directly attached to it. BUT the other client computers did not.
So basically, since we don't have the $1000 a seat for XSAN and we are only cutting DV and DVCPRO HD...
We could configure our Mac Pro Server to be an AFP share over the network; it's plenty fast over Ethernet since it's aggregated over 6 gigabit ports to a switch and has PCIe RAID storage attached. We could give this edit-in-place status IF...
We used another machine (server class) to install FCSr on.
This would work right?

Edit in place documents not working in beehive team collaboration w/IE

I know the Chrome,Firefox browsers don't have an edit-in-place, but IE is supposed to map the network drive via webdav and uses this as a back channel to save the changes on saving the document.
This was working very well on my old laptop using a 32 bit windows, and an older IE platform. probably 95% of the time.
Since my upgrade to Windows 7, 64-bit, IE 8.0.7601, it works about 20% of the time. Very unreliable. Does anyone know what can be done to get this to work more consistently?
Thanks.

Thanks A. Richards.
After much testing, I realized that on the FCSr machine that it indeed had edit-in-place status because of the storage directly attached to it. BUT the other client computers did not.
So basically, since we don't have the $1000 a seat for XSAN and we are only cutting DV and DVCPRO HD...
We could configure our Mac Pro Server to be an AFP share over the network; it's plenty fast over Ethernet since it's aggregated over 6 gigabit ports to a switch and has PCIe RAID storage attached. We could give this edit-in-place status IF...
We used another machine (server class) to install FCSr on.
This would work right?

Edit In Place but use Edit Proxies possible?

Hi all,
Trying to figure out if the above is possible.
Reason being Orig media is either uncompressed or prores 444 or Red.
Over Gig-E the Prores edit proxies are fine to be edit in place so no need to cache every time.
Is this possible?
Cheers
Si
Message was edited by: simonblackledge

Yes. You'll want to reshare the edit proxy device read only, via AFP or NFS.
There are caveats - editing over ethernet cannot guarantee bandwidth and latency in the same way as fibre or direct of disk, so there might be occasional dropped frames. But for the purposes of editing with the proxies, this is not so much of a big deal - you'll be conforming with the hi-res media at a later point.
Depending on how many clients and streams per client would be using this, you'd need to have a think about the backend infrastructure. I've got a setup where I have the edit proxies device on an XSan and a dedicated XServe resharing the device as AFP (read only). That keeps the AFP I/O off the final cut server machine.
You can also do things like get a 4 port ethernet card and bond the network interfaces to give you more bandwidth from the xserve to the switch.

ITunes 7.1 doesn't recognize Airport Express over ethernet

Running iTunes 7.1 on Windows XP desktop. Immediately after update, iTunes no longer can see my Airport Express as a remote speaker (Airtunes over Ethernet).
Airport Express has the latest updates. Airport Utility has no trouble recognizing it by name. It doesn't have a password on it. The Airport is happily providing wireless for my laptop. It is my only WiFi base station, because I have a small place. It's been dependable for over a year.
I'm truly bummed, because earlier today I got a Griffin AirClick USB, and it works like a charm. I was looking forward to using it with full-screen coverflow in 7.1.
iBook G4 and assorted Win & Linux boxes Mac OS X (10.4.8) iTunes is on an XP PC

The problem turns out to be an incompatibility with Bonjour for Windows. A post by "f00fighter" over in the "iTunes for Windows Upgrade Issues" forum solved it. I quote him below:
******Quote***********
Looks like this issue is due to an incompatibility between Bonjour for Windows and iTunes 7.1.0.59 for Windows (thanks toonz!)
To workaround the issue you can stop the Bonjour Service by going to Start \ Control Panel \ Administrative Tools \ Services, then highlight the Bonjour Service and stop it. You might also want to set the Startup status of the Bonjour Service to Manual (or Disabled) to prevent the service from starting automatically the next time you restart you PC.
Note - this is only a temporary fix, and turns off the Bonjour service...so don't do this if you have other applications that rely on the Bonjour Service. A fix from Apple is needed to truly "fix" this issue.
*****End Quote**********
iBook G4 and assorted boxen Mac OS X (10.4.8) iTunes is on an XP PC

HOW TO: EDIT IN PLACE ON WINDOWS CLIENT

Hi everybody,
I work in TIBA (broadcaster company), we use FCS so much and I have a problem, actually i have running edit in place on XSAN for MAC clients, but i cant work of the same way on windows.
We have XSAN and fiber channels working.
I configure the device but it doesn´t work.
Somebody, help me please. My email is [email protected]
Kind regards
Emiliano

Hi,
No iam not using stornext for the windows clients.
The mac and windows clients running on ethernet. The the mac clients have mapped the xsan volumes using AFP or SMB protocol and the edit in place works ok.
The windows clients have mapped the xsan volumes through SMB but the edit un place doesnt work, the files are cached and doesn´t run as edit in place.
Note: sorry by my english.
kind regard.
Emiliano
Are you using StorNext FX to add the Windows clients to your Xsan? If so, then all you have to do is add the Windows Edit-in-place URI to each EIP device in the Devices section of the Java client Admin GUI (not the System Preferences pane). Once you've done that, EIP will work for the Windows clients as well. Here are the instructions for entering the correct URI syntax.
If you are not using StorNext FX for your Windows clients, please give us more detail on how your system is set up.

Streaming Problem - incomplete over ethernet

Hi there,
I have a problem with the streaming over ethernet from my Intel iMac, connected by ethernet to my Netgear WGR614v6 router, to my AppleTV (also connected to the router by ethernet).
My iTunes library is around 120 GBs so I have chosen to stream the majority of my content and only sync the content that I cannot stream (photos). Most of my streaming seems to be OK but bizarrely there are a couple of items that I have updated in my iTunes Library that are not reflected on the AppleTV. These appear to be quite random and are not related (as far as I am aware) to problems with encoding.
Basically I have a podcast subscription which I cancelled in my iTunes library which still appears on my AppleTV, I have a home movie (originally on VCD) in my iTunes Library which is not appearing on the AppleTV and I also have a couple of albums (encoded as VBR 250kbps .mp3 files) that are not appearing on the AppleTV.
I have re-booted the iMac various times and done 2 factory restores of my AppleTV. Is there anything else I can do? Somehow I think the AppleTV just needs to be forced to re-examine the contents of my iTunes library?
Any help or tips much appreciated.
regards
Raf

Dear Winston and capaho - thanks for your quick responses.
ROUTER - I did see some posts about issues with Netgear routers but they were all related to wireless connectivity issues. I am having no problems at all with streaming at sufficient rates and I imagine that issues with Linksys and Netgear routers pop up frequently because they seem to be ubiquitous devices for home users.
FILE DELETION - I did check that the podcast from which I had unsubscribed really was deleted (and it was indeed gone) and I did check that the albums and home movie (.mp4 file as are all of my other movie files) was indeed present in my library.
ITUNES LIBRARY.XML - I have identified this as the root of my problems because this .xml file still contains references to the old deleted podcast files and it does not contain references to the media I am missing.
It appears that iTunes Library.xml corruption is a very common problem (seeing the number of posts on the "using iTunes for Mac" forum) and that is the source of my problem.
Now to do some testing!
thanks again
Raf
UPDATE: I quit iTunes, backed up and then deleted the .xml file from my "Music" folder in Mac OS X. When I next started iTunes it created a new .xml and this seemed to do the trick!
Message was edited by: Rafael Sanchez

Problem using Express over Ethernet via Solwise Gigabit Homeplug

I am hoping someone can help me here.
Similar problem with Tandie (http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=12175903&#12175903). I have a Vista PC which has no problem at all to connect to my Express over ethernet. I use my Express to "Create new wireless" network and stream my itunes over ethernet, which works well if I have a cable connected to the Express to my network where my Vista PC is connected.
However, when I take my Express to another room and connect it to a Solwise Gigabit Homeplug and my other homeplug connects to my network I then seem to have problems. The homeplug works perfectly with my PS3, but my Express after about 2 hours itunes and Airport Utility is unable to find it. I can however ping the Express, but that is it.
Here's how I configured the AX:
Wireless Mode = Create a wireless network
Wireless Network Name = unique name different to my Wireless BT Hub
Radio Mode = 802.11n (802.11b/g compatible)
Channel = Automatic
Click the Internet icon
Connect Using = Ethernet
Connection Sharing = Share a public IP address
AX Firmware ver: 7.4.2
Message was edited by: Charles266

Welcome to the discussions, Charles266!
However, when I take my Express to another room and connect it to a Solwise Gigabit Homeplug and my other homeplug connects to my network I then seem to have problems.
Connection Sharing = Share a public IP address
This would be the correct setting if your AirPort Express is connected directly to a simple modem (a simple modem has only 1 ethernet port)
If you have the Express connected back to another router (it will have 3-4 ethernet ports), then the correct setting for Connection Sharing would be "Off (Bridge Mode)"
I can't say if this will solve your problem. If you continue to have issues, then test using an ethernet cable from the Express back to your main router. If this works well, then one or both of the powerline products is suspect.

Edit-In-Place still caching media

FCSvr system, XSAN, Edit-In-Place set for all Devices. But when FCP projects are checked out by the editors, it still loads all the video files into their local Cache. Unable to duplicate the problem on my own system. The difference is that they have some Ethernet only clients, and some Fibre clients (FCP only on Fibre clients). Why would Edit-In-Place still download the video files to local cache?
FYI, I've set up FCSvr systems before, this is my first mixed (Fibre + Ethernet only) environment, and the first time I've seen this odd behavior.

OK, well, there were other problems they didn't tell me about. Some video assets could be drag-and-dropped from a Projects window in FCSvr to the Browser in FCP. Others could only be done from an Assets window in FCSvr. And this had been going on since the FCSvr 1.5 upgrade.
I attempted to change the URI, but FCSvr would simply revert back to the original every time I tried. I logged out, and the whole system seems to work fine now. Go figure.
Anyone see any quirks with the FCSvr 1.5 upgrade?
Now they want to upgrade everything to Snow Leopard. I'm not touching the Leopard Servers until I see a more stable SL Server!
Still, very odd problem. Wish I knew what it was exactly. Seems playing with URI's reset something. But it all works now.

No check box for "Share disks over Ethernet WAN port"

I've recently bought an AirPort Extreme and have no problem on connecting to Internet and sharing disks. But my "AirPort Utility" looks different from other people's, and I feel uncomfortable about it.
I saw many users' AirPort Utility screen shots, but all of them have "Share disks over Ethernet WAN port" check box under Disks > File Sharing tab. But mine doesn't; at the place where that check box should exist I have "Advertise disks globally using Bonjour" check box, which is usually under "Share disks over Ethernet WAN port" check box.
I think this is very unusual. Does anybody have the same problem?
Here is the my screenshot:link
Power Mac G5 Mac OS X (10.4.9)
Power Mac G5
MacBook Pro Mac OS X (10.4.9)

I have !
i don' t understand neither...
so strange ...
Are you guys running version 7.1 of the Airport software?

Share disks over Ethernet WAN port is missing

Hi All!
I'm quite new to this Airport Extreme thing. I just set tne box up, and i wanted to share my disks over WAN, but the option "Share disks over Ethernet WAN port" is missing. I'm only able to turn on Bonjour
My firmware version is 7.2.1
Can anyone help me with this matter?
-LarsD
Message was edited by: larsd

Hi Lars,
The reason why you are not able to see the option "Share disks over Ethernet WAN port" is because you have set your Airport Extreme up as a "Bridge" (broforbindelse). You must be using the Airport Extreme as your router in order to have this option.
Karsten

Using DynDNS and Sharing disks over Ethernet WAN port

I am having issues accessing the AirDisk from outside my LAN. So here are the steps that I have taken:
In the AirPort Utility, I enable "Share disks over Ethernet WAN port".
Created a DynDNS account at http://www.dyndns.com so my hostname points to my IP address.
After reading a bunch of threads, mainly this one below, there are a few conflicting issues.
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=4105319
Someone mentioned you have to Setup Port Mapping to open up Personal File Sharing. But another said you don't have to set up Port Mapping. Well if you do, you're gonna run into a problem. This Apple article states you have to use a different port: http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=305183
Someone said Remote Access only works via AFP not via SMB. Is this true?
Also do I have to enter my DynDNS hostname into the wide area bonour tab in the advanced tab?
What am I doing wrong?
Macbook Mac OS X (10.4.8) Airport Extreme N

Are you aware of any DynDNS-like service that support Wide Area Bonjour?
None at the moment. One might hope that Apple's .Mac service would make use of it, but I don't think Apple has announced anything about that possibility.
Or as a practical matter is this a technology that only appears at the moment in private installations of OS X Server?
I've found the version of dnsextd that ships in Mac OS X 10.4 (not just the server version) to be a bit flaky. One hopes it will work a lot better in Mac OS X 10.5.
But since the AEBS doesn't support DynDNS update, as other routers do, it ends up requiring a server after all.
Wouldn't it be nice if DynDNS and similar services allowed you to configure DNS resource records manually? That way, it wouldn't matter what your home gateway/fileserver was capable of doing— you could just edit your DNS zone accordingly.

Setup Edit in place

I need to setup edit in place on our main array. I have plenty of bandwidth so that's not an issue.
how do you make your main library an edit in place device? I've tried adding file:///volumes/volumenamehere in the mac edit in place url field
what's wrong?

I got it working. I will post this just in case it helps someone else.
this is the setup:
dedicated macpro running FCS with a locally attached SATA RAID called FCS_RAID
It is a server, both public, dhcp, and some other stuff not relevant. I am directly connected via 2 gigabit ethernet cables (trunked) and use a locally assigned IP e.g. 168.254.xxx.xxx
the volume is mounted and is accessible as file://localhost/Volumes/FCS_RAID/
I am wanted to use the Library (default created by FCS) as an edit in place device since that is where the media lives
to get EIP to work I copied the path from the "Local Directory" field. So basically file://localhost/whatever it says in the local directory field
What is not working properly now is the location in which the project thinks the files are located.
This is our simplified workflow:
P2 dumped to external drive during shoot
archived raw etc
footage is logged and transfered in FCP and media managed to a DROBO
from there is is uploaded to FCS and our main RAID.
If I were to check out the project I'm sure the file locations would be updated to the local cache but since I'm doing an edit in place I want to use the media on the RAID. But, when I "reveal in finder" I see that the media is linked to the DROBO instead of the RAID. Now the media is also located on the RAID in the standard "library" location.
Why didn't FCS update the FCP project to the new location of the media?
I can work around this by unmounting the DROBO and relinking the media to my RAID but I don't want to.
Thanks for your help guys.

How to print on HP LaserJet 2200 over Ethernet?

Hi,
I did an upgrade to Snow Leopard and would like to print on a HP LaserJet 2200 over Ethernet. OS X and the HP printer drivers are up to date now.
The printer has been cold reset and on the configuration print out there's the IP address 0.0.0.0
Now my question is how to get this printer to work with Snow Leopard over Ethernet? I did not find a tutorial how to assign an IP address to the printer first so I got stuck.
Could you give me a hint where I should start with the configuration first?

OK, now the printer works
I reset the router and checked if DHPC is running.
I reset the printer (hold down the GO button, turn the printer on and continue to hold the GO button for five to ten seconds).
Checked at router that the printer is visible as network device.
At the router I assigned a fixed IP address to the printer.
At OS X System Preferences > Printer I added a new printer with "HP Jetdirect - Socket", the fixed IP address and the correct printer driver "HP LaserJet 2200".
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THANKS.

How do I set up multiple Airport Expresses to connect over ethernet for Airtunes only?

I am trying to set up an Airtunes network using an Airport Extreme and three Airport Expresses connected together via ethernet (CAT5 cable). At each Airport Express there will be a speaker setup. I don't need/want internet connectivity on the network, but not sure if it is required for setup or not. I have made this work over wifi, using the Expresses to extend the network, but struggling to get this to work over ethernet.
I would be verry grateful of a step-by-step method to setting this up! I am also looking to set up 6 airport expresses to do the same thing in another location.
Thanks in advance!

Thanks for the info.
I assume that the AirPort Extreme is setup and working at this point.
Work with one AirPort Express at a time to get them all configured, and then you can locate them where they will be needed.
AirPort Setup will configure the Express devices to "extend a wireless network" using Ethernet, so they will be broadcasting the same wireless signal as the AirPort Extreme and provide more wireless signal coverage as well.
I have yet to meet the first person who thought that they had too much wireless coverage, but you would have the option to turn off the wireless on the Express if you wanted. Most users like having extended wireless for their devices.
Temporarily, move an Express close to the AirPort Extreme
Connect a spare Ethernet cable from one of the LAN <-> ports on the Extreme to the WAN "O" port on the Express
Power up the Express for a few minutes
Hold in the reset button on the back of the Express for 10 seconds and release. Allow a full minute for the Express to restart to a slow, blinking amber light.
Click the Airport icon at the top of the Mac's screen and wait a few seconds for AirPort Express to appear just under the listing of New AirPort Base Station
Click directly on the AirPort Express
AirPort Setup will open up automatically and take a minute to analyze the network, then announce that the Express will be configured to extend the AirPort Extreme network.
Enter a device name that you want to use....example.....Express1.....and click Next
AirPort Setup will configure everything for you. Notice that the message will say that the Express is being set up to extend using Ethernet. When you see the message of setup complete, click Done.
Now you can move the Express to the remote location where it is needed, hook it up to the Ethernet connection there, power up the Express and set up AirTunes on the device.
AirTunes is enabled by default, to other than make the speaker connection, you won't have much to do on that.
Set up other Express devices the same way, except assign a different name to each device....example....Express2, Express3, etc.....to keep things organized.

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