Edit live rules in Oracle 11g SOA Suite

Is it possible to edit live rules in the 11g SOA suite stack? I am looking for the same functionality that was delivered via the ruleauthor web site in the 10g stack.
Additionally is it possible to publish rule sets into an environment without building a deployable artifact. WebDAV support has been dropped in favour of MDS however I am not sure if it is possible to publish an update to business rules without editing the rules in JDev then rebuilding a deployable version of the rules within an app.
Regards
Neil

Will a web interface, similar to the ruleauther, be provided by Oracle for the 11g stack. If so when will this be available?
It seems odd that functionality has been removed from the 11g stack. By not providing the functionality within the 10g stack many people will find the upgrade painful especially if custom applications have to be writhen to provide functionality that was available within the previous release.
Regards
Neil

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Hi,
Please let me know that anyone is using Oracle 11g SOA suite in production. if it so, how it performs.
Thanks,
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Can you please elaborate on "Make sure that sizing is being done properly."Sizing means determining the number and size of hardwares as well as number of instances of software that may be required to achieve the desired performance, high availability, failover and throughput. This is the key to have a performance oriented setup with a huge load on it. For large enterprises it is common to have load requirement of 60-70K messages per hour and that also where each message may be of 10-20Kb in size, so if you will not do the sizing properly then you may frequently see OOM and server crash related problems. Moreover performance will also be not very good in before mentioned scenario. So to avoid such problems, sizing must be done properly.
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Help needed in oracle 11g soa suite.........(BPEL Process manager)

we tried to download bpel process manager 11g but as per oracle it is under Oracle Fusion Middleware 11gR1 so we have downloaded the same also.....*
but the problem is agter installation we are not getting anuthing called oracle bpel process manager and also we are not able to run soa suite..........*
Can you please suggest how we can install the same or is there any other way so that we can run bpel process manager.*

Hi,
Download SOA 11.1.1.2.0 from OTN.
1. Don't forget to download RCU (Repository Configuration Utility). It is an extractable zip folder. Extract it. Navigate to its bin folder. Invoke rcu.sh/rcu.bat. It will open RCU. Choose Create. Enter your db details. In the next screen, choose SOA Infrastructure schema. Provide a schema prefix. Default would be 'DEV'. Proceed with further steps.
2. After installing 11gR1, navigate to your $ORACLE_HOME/common/bin
Invoke config.sh/config.cmd based on your OS. This will open the configuration wizard.
Choose create domain option. Enter the domain name. Select the templates: SOA Suite and Enterprise Manager. In the JDBC Datasources screen, enter the SOA schema information, db details. Complete the wizard. No need to customize anything else. This will create a SOA Domain.
3. Run the setNMProps.sh/cmd from $MW_HOME/oracle_common/common/bin folder.
4. Navigate to $MW_HOME/wlserver_10.3/server/bin. Execute startNodeManager.sh/cmd. This will start the node manager.
5. Now navigate to your $DOMAIN_HOME. You will be able to find startWeblogic.cmd/sh file. Execute it. This will start your Admin Server.
6. Once the server started, login to WLS Admin Console (http://host:7001/console). Navigate to Servers. Click on Control tab. Select soa_server1. Start the server.
This will start the SOA server. To test your soa is up, access the url http://host:8001/soa-infra
There is no BPEL Console/ ESB Console / OWSM console in 11g. Everything is managed from your EM. EM url would be http://host:admin_server_port/em (http://host:7001/em)

Testing rules designed using Oracle Business Rules in Oracle 11g SOA

Hi.
I want to test the rules designed in ORB from a java class or a JSP.
I am looking for a way to provide input from a form/UI , then execute the rules and display the result back on form/UI.
Any sample showing how to achieve this would be helpful.
Thanks,
Chinmay

Hi Chinmay,
Oracle's SOA testing framework allows any or all ofthe invoked services to be emulated. Simply click on the invocation in the process diagramand supply a response document to use instead of actually invoking the service. Tests can also make assertions about document content at any step in the business process. You can use a SOAP client to test you WS, such as Fiddler, generic SOAP UI, SOAP UI utility. You can also do your unit testing from the OBR Designer itself.
Hope that helps!
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Installation of 11g SOA Suite

Hello All,
I have installed the
ORacle 11g DB
RCU to create schema
Oracle 11g SOA suite
Two Domains for BAM and SOA suite (without) selecting the Admin Option as referred in QUick install guide.
I have query on these two weblogic domains as both of them have the same port 7001, how can I run both the domains ?
Have you found the .xml files as mentioned in page no. 49. of the guide ?

Hello Baskar,
I did refer Quick installation while installing and followed the steps, hence created two domains with the understanding that BAM component probably needs a separate domain (BEA) as it could be bit heavy weight component.
I believe if BAM, SOA and EM can run in a single domain, even now it is NOT too late, there is a option to configure domain and I will use the SOA domain create to check the BAM component also into it and start only this domain. But the quick installation guide seems to have a conflicting guidance steps.
http://download.oracle.com/docs/cd/E12839_01/install.1111/e14318/qisoa.htm
Refer the Installation Guide and the steps for configuring BAM and configuring SOA, they had been given in two step activity with different domains.

Oracle 11g SOA-BPM PS3 Installation Help

I'm not a super techie, so installing the latest release from Oracle was a challenge, but I encountered a number of problems and kept notes of what I did to solve it. Many of these hints came from the Forum, but nothing had all of the relevant info under one thread. So here is what I pieced together. If this is helpful to anybody, I'd love to hear it - either on this thread or at my e-mail address of [email protected]. My thanks to Linus Chow of Oracle for some help and allowing me to think I could do this!
Comments/Suggestions on Oracle 11g SOA-BPMN PS3 Installation_
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General comment/suggestion. Be sure to name the aforementioned folder without any spaces (big problems if this is done because of how unzipped files do/don’t work with a path name with spaces in it). As the installs get started, note that an Oracle directory (under the root) with a default name for the middleware directory, named Middleware, is created as the default.
The link with the installation is actually helpful, but it is incomplete (http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/middleware/bpm/downloads/index.html). Some of the detail needed is in the quick installation guide (http://download.oracle.com/docs/cd/E17904_01/install.1111/e14318/toc.htm, and I suggest downloading the PDF version), but the order conflicts with the previous information. I resolved this by using the latter for detail, but the former for the sequence. I also had to turn to several blogs/forums (the main one being: http://blogs.oracle.com/SOA/2009/08/installing_oracle_soa_suite_11.html) to get help on troubleshooting problems with the installation (see below for others).
I have a Windows 7 Professional 64-bit version, but I ended up following the path for the 32-bit install path (see the main link cited above), mostly because it was unclear to me what the 64-bit path would be. I also already had the 32-bit version of the JRE installed. The following links cover identifying the differences and what you may have installed as well as alternative versions to download: http://www.java.com/en/download/faq/index_general.xml?user_os=Windows%207; http://www.java.com/en/download/faq/java_win64bit.xml; and http://www.java.com/en/download/manual.jsp.
Another general comment/suggestion. I found it useful to reboot after each step. It shut down services that I would otherwise have to search for and shut down manually. Some of the installations require services activated by previous steps to be turned off, so you’re better off doing something like this rather than encountering such an error in a subsequent step.
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The RCU sets up DB schemas and the like for the BPMN and SOA stuff. The screenshots in the previously mentioned document should be followed exactly. You can also refer to pp. 5-6 of the Quick Installation Guide. You should use the SYS user account (the default, I think), so have the password handy.
I also found it more comforting to shutdown the RCU installation/configuration via the cancel option than to keep going back a screen to fix something. This may not have been necessary, but it made me feel better. Be prepared for interim screens that pop up to show that the installation/configuration is happening, which will also tell you there are errors. One such screen says that XE isn’t supported for RCU, but you can ignore that (as the supporting guidelines indicate).
Step 4: Installing JDev. This is an executable, and you just install with all of the defaults. This process will start the WLS as part of the installation, so you must turn it off before going to the next step. Again, I just rebooted to do this.
Step 5: Installing SOA Extensions for JDev. Instructions on the page at the main link are clear and correct. The 2 screen shots must be reviewed and adhered to completely in checking off options. The first selection defines the areas where updates are to be sought out, while the second selection is from the available option(s) from those areas. In this case, you are only installing the SOA Composite Editor, though there are several other updates/extensions from which to select (but don’t, at least for now).
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Create a new user oracle and proceed with the installation
--> useradd -g oinstall oracle
If your are forwarding your GUI using xming or vnc you would need to copy the xauth of root user and set it to oracle
[server1:root] xauth list
bangvmpllE.com/unix:11 MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 b23d63374fe25a3577751b6b95b2210e
[server1:root] sudo su - oracle
[server1:oracle] export DISPLAY=localhost:10.0
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Based on the below links, it looks like JDK 1.6 Update 11 is the correct one to use for 11g SOA suite.
http://www.packtpub.com/article/installation-configuration-oracle-soa-suite-11g-1
Do I also need JRE ?
I downloaded JDK 1.6 Update 11 from below link:
https://cds.sun.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/WFS/CDS-CDS_Developer-Site/en_US/-/USD/ViewFilteredProducts-SingleVariationTypeFilter
thanks,
Rev

Hi Rev
NO. You do not need any other JRE if you already have JDK installed. Infact before you install SOA 11g, first you will install Weblogic Server. When you install WLS, you will get option to install 2 JDKs (Sun JDK or BEA/Oracle's proprietory JDK named JRockit). You can install both and at runtime you can choose to use either of the JDKs. Anyhow, the point is with WLS you will get a JDK and you can use the same JDK for installation of SOA also. At the time of installation of SOA 11g (or SOA 11g Patch set), it will prompt to enter jdk/jre path, at this time just point to the jdk installed with WLS folder.
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This company is for the e-commerce area and our processes can have many instances at the same time, for example, a process to all the "order flow" can have thousands, maybe millions instances at the same time.
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11g ADF is not certified with 10g SOA Suite. What I mean by this is that your 11g ADF will need to run on WLS 10.3.1 and SOA Suite 10g will eith run on oc4j or WLS 9.2.
ADF is just JDeveloper, you deploy to WLS 11g (10.3.1).
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I'm looking here for an official Oracle position (if possible) -- not opinions.
(I would ask our Oracle rep (a) if we had one and (b) if I had those kind of connections)

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The latest technological preview release is from may last year.
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No date, rumors are this year :)
I believe Oracle is trying to get something before 1 June. But this may not be the full release there may be some missing components, e.g. the stuff that is difficult to port from BEA.
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I am requesting you all the Experts and Gurus, please let me know what can be done to fix this issue.
Thanks a lot in advance,
John.

Hi All,.
Is there any work around for the above issue?
I tried all the below JMS tunings, but not no improvement.
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            <property name="retryInterval">60</property>
Please let
me know if any other logs or any other information is required in order to analyse the issue.
Thanks,
John

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As we all know Editioning view is like a wrapper over the base table which allows each edition to see the table in the form it needs, all data operations will be on editioning view once the view is created.
( Small downtime is required to rename the original_table to original_table_base, as we need to create editioning view as "original_table", applications do not have to change anything as its still pointing to "original_table" )
During our POC on editioning views (DMLs on E.Views), we have noticed base table names into redo logs ("original_table_base")!!
This requires significant amount of changes on the application utilizing redo log as source. (for example Goldengate).
My question is do we have any work around to convert those redo entries into "original_table" ?

Deepak,
If I do remember correctly, 11gr2 table compression is enabled for the subsequent data only(can't recall whether its applicable to the exsiting data as well, need to verify it). Also, if the table's data is mostly unique, the rate of compression won't be much higher.
HTH
Aman....

Forms 11g & soa suite 11g in one domain?

Has anyone tried to put both Oracle forms and soa suite in one domain. This will make management somewhat more easy as you can use one instead of two administation servers.

I suppose it would work in theory, but I doubt it would be supported.
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11g SOA suite BPM and WC Spaces error

Hi,
Has anyone encountered errors below when you integrate BPM with Web Center Spaces. I am currently using 11.1.1.5 stack. Another issue I have is application portlet (left BPM application menu) is not appearing in the BPM Process Space. I see the process in InBox once I invoke it from the BPM Workspace and come back to Web Center Process Space.
<Sep 9, 2011 10:03:39 AM EDT> <Error> <oracle.bpm.services.internal.processModel
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exception.71201.severity: 2
exception.71201.name: Error retrieving process model.
exception.71201.description: Process model for process {1} from deployed project
{0} could not be retrieved.
exception.71201.fix: Verify that the project id and process name are correct.
any help would be greatly greatly appreciated. Thanks.
-sam

Hi Graeme
refer to this post:
What exactly is BPM Suite 11g?
it has all the info you need, where the product manager of OBPM had also answering the same query there.
HTH
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