Edit nested sequence, while seeing result

Pardon the elementary question, I searched around the forums to find that other people have much more involved workflows than mine. Maybe there is a simple answer.
When editing, I have dozens of tracks of different elements, like background footage, graphic elements, titles, animations that are all being composited. For manageability, I will take a bunch of clips and nest them. If I need to edit something about this nested sequence, I double click it and make the change. The problem is that I don't know how to view the effect of that change while making the edit because the program monitor only shows the current sequence. How can I work with timing and positioning within a nested sequence so that I can see the effect that the edit will have in the sequence that the nested element has been placed?
Thanks

Don't be so quick to say it can't be done. It sounds like we are thinking of two seperate things. I am not trying to view two comps at once, although that too can be done in AE.
The result I am looking for in Premiere can be done easily in After Effects by locking the preview.
2 Comps
Comp A has Comp B "nested" in it
Click the lock in the Comp A Preview Tab
Double-click Comp B, it opens and creates a second comp window (similar to the program monitor)
Now you can work in Comp B while watching the result in Comp A
This is basic compositing stuff. From what I gather, I should not be nesting things until I feel comfortable that their timing will need no further editing? I'm just learning about the intended use here, and what the software was intended for.
Thanks for any constructive feedback.
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