Edit to tape knows something I don't know!

Hi
I've occasionally found that edit to tape finds something to render in a sequence which seems to be already full rendered.
Doesn't ever seem to damage the result but it deflates that moment of 'Aaaah finished'!
What is is up to? Any ideas?
Checked all the render options were ticked and did Render All. Working in PAL, Uncompressed 8-bit via Blackmagic card SDI embedded to DVCAM on DSR 1500AP.
All the best
Jim

If I've no un-rendered audio on the timeline e.g. grey render bar throughout is there still something to do?<<</div>
I don't know the technical reason behind it, but the audio mixdown isn't really for rendering - who knows why they grouped it in the render family. Rather, it does the final mixdown for output.
-DH

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I have been agonizing over this for a while, so any help would be good. I have been attempting to edit to tape on to a Sony Z1 camera and it the picture keeps coming out all over the place. There will be massive chunks of the creen in the wrong place or not there at all.
I have set all the cmera settings to DV and the audio/video settings in FCP. Is there something I am not doing?
Thanks in advance

Yes, I am calm now!!!
Basically, I have checked to see if capture works and it works fine. When I go to edit video or print to video the image that fcp shows is not the same as the one showing on the Z1.
For example: I go to edit to tape and I put a new tape in. I then click on 'Black and Code' so it rewinds to the beginning and starts to black the tape. Only it doesn't because what shows on the cameras monitor is the blue LCD which is what shows when it is showing no signal. Sometimes it records a signal that is like a mix of colours on the screen.
When I actually come to record a FCP movie which has been exported and reimported into the browser. Mark in and out point and drag it to the assemble. I have put bars and tone on the front, but what happens is the image that shows on the camera is a jumbled up bars and tone, with bits on the image missing. And that signal remains recording to tape, where the image on the computer monitor is fine.
I have changed firewire cables, adjusted the camera settings and audio and video settings and I don't know what else to do to make it work??? Any suggestions?
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This entire week we've been dividing time and shoots using one camera, a Panasonic DVX100A. As a result I think the settings on our camera and computer have changed a bit between shoots. That being said I'm having a problem doing an 'Edit to Tape' from the file menu in Final Cut Pro 6.0.3. When the Edit to Tape window comes up, we set the in point there after pulling over the Sequence we want to edit to tape on the camera monitor for the recorder it says it's recording. However, all I see it a blue screen with the 'REC' notice at the top. Since we've done this using this camera a few times I'm not sure what settings may have changed. To sum up, I need to know what has to change in order for me to effectively edit a sequence to tape in FCP 6. Thanks (most definitely) in advance for your help!

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Edit to Tape not working for me!!! PLEASE HELP!!!!!

Hey everyone,
I've researched this in many forums and have found what could be the answer, only to try and still get NOTHING!!!
When I drag seq. to ETT window I get the pop-up but 'insert', 'assemble', and 'preview' are kind of greyed out, and don't let me drop anything in, i.e sequence from browser, from viewer, clips, etc.
GOAL:
To Output Final Sequence from FCP6 to DVCPRO HD Tape, (Panasonic 1200a Deck). WITH TIMECODE for Broadcast at 29.97/59.94!!
SPECS:
*MAC PRO-*
Quad Core Intel Xeon Processor
3 Ghz
2 Processors
8 cores
L2 Cache per proc. 8MB
Memory-8GB
Bus Speed 1.33 Ghz
Boot Rom Ver. MP21.007F.B06
SMC Ver. 1.15f3
*FCP Ver. 6.0.2*
*AJA KONA 3 Ver. 5.1*
Digital out – 720p 59.94
Control – Playback timing /Genlock - Freerun
Codec – Pattern 2:3:3:2
Timecode - Input ---RP188 LTC
- Output--- Use QT Timecode is UNCHECKED
- 30 FPS DF
*Panasonic DVCPRO HD AJ-HD1200A*
Timecode Settings –
TCG MODE – REGEN
RUN MODE - REC
TC SOURCE - INT
Footage was shot 720P 24PN on Panasonic HVX200. Ingested via P2 Cards/P2 Store, (W/ REMOVE ADVANCED PULLDOWN FRAMES checked).
Project was edited in a 23.98 timeline.
Have tried: Exporting to QT at both 29.97 and 59.94—then re-importing into FCP with a new timeline w/ matching settings.
I have been told that FCP doesn’t produce TC ‘going out’ and that essentially we are looking to 'MATCH-EDIT' to timecode on tape.
I have Black and coded tape to 00:58:50;00
Project In point is 00:59:00;02 --for all intents/purposes this is a test seq. so OUT point is 01:01:00;07
I have complete Deck Control in FCP but, the problem I’m having is not being able to use the “Edit to Tape” func. In FCP. I can Black and Code the beginning of the tape, and the “ETT” window shows the corresponding timecode on the deck, but when I go to drop the sequence in the ‘Insert’ or ‘Assemble’ drop box, I get nothing? I don’t know if it’s the settings in the DECK, KONA CARD or FCP??
PLEASE HELP!!!!!!SHOW AIRING in 2 DAYS!!!!
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TRUST ME...I have been down this path.
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Using a capture card no doubt, right?
I've done this more than a few times. I can even insert edit when I need to. Didn't have an issue. Because the IN point in FCP is set, and the IN point on the tape is set. And the card handles the duration conversion.
Darn reliable. I only had one hiccup in 24 outputs.
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Hi all,
I am trying to edit to tape going form FCP 504 to a Sony DSR 45 DVCam deck. There seems to be no problems going to the SP Deck, however if I enter the in-point (as per manual) in the master mode edit to tape window, and then drag the sequence over, nothing seems to happen. I thought this may have somethign to do with the "insert timecode" button, which seems to remain yellow all the time... is this switched on or off? Either way I couldn't get it to change state.
I have striped the tape at hour 10:00:00:00. The mastering window never seems to calculate the running time when hooked up to the Sony DSR deck, so I guess its just not seeing the sequence.
For a while I did seem to progress but got a message to the effect that the deck was not in the right "mode" what ever that means. I have looked extensively in the settings for the deck but cannot see anything, I have also tried various different output settings and still no luck. The RS422 seems fine controlling the deck in non edit to tape mode, so I just cannot figure this out.
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Once again hmmmm.....
I set all my setting for the DVCAM deck to use firewire and all the FCp settings for firewire. Even this ws not working! So I then repatched the video using the components in and hey presto its all works.
It seems I am using the firewire to control the deck but the AJA Kona to output the actual video signal, eventhough no setting should be using the Kona - only direct firewire to firewire! Is this the opposite to what you said patrick? It all just seems so random really, but I guess it has something to do with the Kona and how thats controlling output... not sure.
Just glad to be back up and running, although I have heard that the problem you suggest re frame accuracy may become an issue, but I read that it only usually has an effect on long programs.
Thanks for your help, however please do suggest any reasons behind why only this set up works for me. I'd love to know whats going on for future problem solving.
Regards, Nick
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I'm trying to layoff a ProRes 422 720p sequence to my Panasonic Standard Def AJSD93 deck. I have it downconverted thru my AJA i/o box...but for some reason when I open edit to tape and go to drop my sequence on the drop zone for assemble or insert...BOTH are greyed out. Any ideas what could be going on???
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Did you ever use this deck for insert or assemble whatever signal?
Because a quick google gave me this : " ...this deck can't be used to insert edit.
The output of an edited sequence from Avid or Final Cut Pro onto tape can only be done as a straight recording from the editing application, so the timeline's timecode can't be accurately transferred to the tape...."
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Sych drift using edit to tape

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Is there a preference or setting that I'm supposed to alter?

That is a BIG offset. Typically mine run from 20 frames to 9 frames. Figuring out just WHAT the offset is tricky. If you have it figured out, and it is ALWAYS that same amount...then that is good.
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At work tomorrow, I have to lay a 59.94 sequence on to a DVCPRO HD deck with no firewire option. So I'm using my Kona Lhe with SDI output and deck control. A couple things to ponder... Audio and Video ARE getting to the deck through the SDI. I am able to crash record with no problem. I am able to black and code the tape. No problem there. I black the tape from 58:30 to shortly past 1 hour, 30 seconds. I set my "In Point" to 59:00, but when I go to assemble record the sequence, the "Insert", "Assemble", and "Preview" drop zones are disabled. We tried an SR deck and the drop zones were working, but when it went to start the edit to tape, it rewound the deck all the way to the beginning of the tape and then sat there. Tried every possible combination of device preferences. I gotta figure this out if I want to work here again. Patrick, I'm looking in your direction.

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Playing from the timeline, outputting to the monitor, works fine. But when I try to "Edit to Tape", I get nothing, sometimes just bars from the Kona 2 Card. As well, a brief message will pop saying "video out in progress" and the mirror on the computer looks distorted.
After I try to edit to tape, just playing from the timeline will no longer output to the monitor. Refreshing video ssources doesn't solve the problem. I restart and then playing from the timeline outputs again, until I try to "edit to tape" again.
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I had a similar problem recently. I not only had the no signal to tape problem you had but also was getting a sync issue with my Digital Betacam. It seems that all was fixed by installing the latest AJA Kona (3 in my case) drivers, software, control panel, etc. Apparently when I updated to Leopard 10.5.2, I didn't realize that there was an AJA update that I should have done as well. That seems to have fixed the problem.
Open your AJA Control Panel software and go to the Info tab and see if there are any warnings in red text. You may have to manually trash your old AJA Control Panel, etc to make sure you have the latest version after installing the latest from their website.
I would try that as well as the usual stuff (repair permissions, etc). Another test would be to just hit record on your deck and see if FCP outputs signal to the deck without using the Edit to Tape function. Not sure what that will tell you? But if it does, I would imagine you just need the correct AJA drivers (which hopefully will solve the machine control/signal output issue). I've never heard of the preview window being distorted. That's kinda weird.
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