Edit .VOB files? (dividing into chapters)

Hi,
I don't know if this is the right Discussions forum, but as I guess that iMovie or iDVD will be dependant on QT for this one, I thought that I should start here...
I need to make a DVD out of some .VOB files. But those files are quite large and contain different chapters each. Not marked, so I have to do it before burning the DVD so they can be selected individuallly instead of playing the whole file.
I thought that importing the files into iMovie or QuickTime would allow me to cut them into pieces (or place chapter markers in iMovie). The trouble is... how can I import .VOB files into those programs?
Apparently, not directly. Then, if I have to reencode them, which program/setting should I use in order to lose the absolute minimum in quality (I used ffmpegX for some tests, but, for some reason, it provides 4:3 vrsions of the widescreen .VOB...), and usually at half the resolution of the original.... Preserving the maximum of quality, as said, is a priority.
Indeed, if I could just add chapter markers and send it to iDVD for some menu-editing, it would be the best solution.
Thanks in advance.
Amadeu

You need to convert the VOB files back to DV which iMovie is designed to handle. For that you need Streamclip:
http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/video/mpegstreamclip.html
which is free, as well as the the Apple mpeg2 plugin :
http://www.apple.com/quicktime/mpeg2/
which is a mere $20.
Obviously the foregoing only applies to DVDs you have made yourself, or other home-made DVDs that have been given to you. It will NOT work on copy-protected commercial DVDs, which in any case would be illegal.

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If your first paragraph is correct, then replacing the old VOB files with the new (edited) ones in the TS-folder will do the trick, if you have Toast. Just drag that TS folder to the Toast window and burn - job done.
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Summary: Have trouble importing VOB files into Pinnacle
Studio for further editing? If so, follow the quick-start guide to learn
how to prepare VOB videos for editing in Pinnacle Studio without
quality loss.
I normally receive my stuff in a format I can stick on Pinnacle
Studio, but VOBs are not compatible. What I want to do with the current
project is take the VOB I have and convert it for use with Pinnacle
Studio. And what I need is a VOB converter I know.
After getting some reviews online and multiple testing, I found the
best and easiest way to import VOB files into Pinnacle Studio along with
the help from Brorsoft Video Converter.
It is an optimal VOB converter for you, which can help you change VOB
into a different format like MPEG-2, AVI with least quality loss. You
should then be able to import the new file into Pinnacle Studio with
smooth editing without any trouble. It will ensure a perfect VOB
importing, playing and editing workflow with Pinnacle Studio
9/11/12/14/15.
How to Convert VOB to Pinnacle Studio editable format
1. Download, install and run the VOB to Pinnacle Studio Converter; click "Add Videos" icon to load your source .vob videos.
2. Click “Format” bar and choose "Adobe Premiere/Sony Vegas
> MPEG-2 (*.mpg)” as output format on the drop-down menu. Of course,
you can also choose AVI, MP4, WMV from “Common Video” as the output
format.
3. Click “Settings” button if you’d like to customize
advanced audio and video parameters like Video Codec, aspect ratio, bit
rate, frame rate, Audio codec, sample rate, audio channels.
4. Click the convert button under the preview window, the
converter will start encoding VOB for importing to Pinnacle Studio. Soon
after the conversion is finished, just click "Open" button to get the
generated files for edit in Pinnacle Studio 14/15/16 perfectly.
Source: How to split large vob files to Pinnacle Studio
[quote] movies-videos-convert-tips.overblog.com/2014/02/how-to-make-video-object-.vob-format-is-it-editable-friendly-in-pinnacle-studio.html [/quote]

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