Editing 5.1 audio on a 2.1 system

This might be a strange question but I really need to ask it to avoid wasting loads of time.
I have got a copy of premiere cs4 to try out and I have a Panasonic SD20 camcorder which records audio in 5.1. I have a TV and surround sound set up at home with 5.1 the trouble is my pc is 2.1. I want to know the best way to edit this and check all my sound channels, I want to be able to check there is nothing really loud or un-needed on the surround channels. Can i play all channels through my 2 speakers or does it just play the front channels? . Im really confused by this as I have only just got this camcorder and it is something I have never needed to worry about so any advice would be great. Bascially I want to edit my footage with the 5.1 audio and export to play on ps3 so avchd is fine as it plays natively. I will play it from an external usb hdd. If i edit with my current setup do i need to anything inparticular? I dont do any major audio editing just fades and levels really.
A side question when editing avchd when i output will cs4 only render footage i have changed or will it render the whole lot?

I normally associate the recording of "surround" with convert movies. Many are done with this technique, but I assume that you mean "theatrical releases."
Let’s go back to long before there was a Dolby Labs, to the first "surround" movies. Disney’s Fantasia is the grand-father of them all. Now, it was an animated film, but most of the orchestral movements were captured in surround sound.
Spring ahead and both Oklahoma and South Pacific were recorded in surround sound. OK, they were musicals, but also theatrical releases. Some of Star Wars and also Close Encounters of the Third Kind, were shot with surround sound, and obviously heavily mixed for full surround release. Lucas found that getting those explosions in deep space with 6 mics to be really tough. I believe that some of Apocalypse Now was also shot with surround sound.
As far a full features that were shot entirely in surround sound, I’d strongly guess that there might be few, beyond the pure stage-to-screen productions. The logistics and control would be hellacious. Also, as so very much is added in post with Foley and SFX, I’m not sure that it would be worth the effort.
There is bound to be a film historian, who has researched and likely documented this. Good question.
Hunt

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Case #0183085485
Updated
Wednesday, March 21, 2012 7:59:24 PM PDT
Opened
Thursday, March 15, 2012 4:54:02 PM PDT
Status
Open - Pending Adobe Response
Product
Production Premium 5.5
Support contract
Adobe Support Program
Subject
Premiere Pro CS5.5: Edit Audio
NOTES & RESPONSES
Notes from Customer
Wednesday, March 21, 2012 7:59:24 PM PDT
Once upon a time there was a princess who was very sad. She had discovered that her favorite pet guinea pig had been kidnapped by a
n evil Chihuaha named "El Diablo". You see, it turns out El Diablo could not get a straight answer from Adobe Technical Support reg
arding what seemed like an incredibly simple question. So after endless attempts to get this question answered, he went quite insan
e and started kidnapping Guinea Pigs with the diabolical plan of starting his own software support company run by Guinea Pigs as the
y could not possibly offer worse support than he had been receiving. Alas, if someone had only just replied to his futile queries i
n a precise and meaningful fashion. But they did not. And so the Guinea Pigs - they must suffer. To be continued?
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Wednesday, March 21, 2012 1:06:19 PM PDT
Hi Christopher ,
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We would be happy to assist and assure you with the best possible
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.So please feel free to get back to us or if you would like us to give
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appropriate time to call.
Would like to know how you were able to edit the audio and the video
less than a frame in the earlier versions of adobe premiere pro.
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REALLY? I spent an hour on the phone with your top support people and you still can't give me a definitive answer on this unless I
post in other forums? WHAT is so hard about answering this simple question? Thank you!
Please confirm that it is currently IMPOSSIBLE to edit audio or video in Premiere Pro 5.5 to measurements LESS THAN 1 frame.
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Monday, March 19, 2012 3:36:49 PM PDT
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reference to your case regarding Premiere Pro .
We would be happy to assist and assure you with the best possible
assistance regarding the case.
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please feel free to get back to us or if you would like us to give you a
call as per your availability ,please let us know of an appropriate time
to call.
You can also visit www.adobe.com/go/supportportal for any assistance
regarding Adobe products. You may also visit www.forums.adobe.com as
it?s a useful resource for self-help.
We are always here to assist you. Please contact us at 800 833 6687 IVR
Options 2-3 if you have any questions or need an update on your case.
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Adobe Technical Support
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Sunday, March 18, 2012 8:12:20 AM PDT
Please confirm that it is currently IMPOSSIBLE to edit audio or video in Premiere Pro 5.5 to measurements LESS THAN 1 frame.
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If this is indeed so - we will have to adjust our work flow to edit audio OUTSIDE of Premiere.
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Thank you for your input.
YES - I've seen the "right click Time Code display and switch to audio units timeline solution - yet audio units do NOT appear as an option for me...hence all of this drama.
ADOBE - do I have a munged install? Any other advice? We keep a clean system (Mac Pro 10.6.11 or whatever is last iteration of SL). I guess I could try installing into a new User and see if it behaves any differently.
Sigh...we bailed on FCP7 after trying FCPX and also passed on going to Avid MC. Hope PP is reliable for our work flow...again thx for all help.
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