Editing a BlackMagic AVi file

I have Premiere Elements 10. A service is offering to convert 8mm film to a Blackmagic Avi file. I have no Blackmagic hardware. I have Win 7 64bit.
Will PE10 read this file in so I may edit the file. Do i need to obtain any new codecs, and if so, how do I do that?
If the edited file is saved to hard disk, will it be Blackmagic Avi, or what?
What is the difference between Blackmagic Avi and AVI Canopus or AVI Cineform which are optionally offered by the conversion company at a higher price?
I am new to film editing and will appreciate your help!

Many of the BM CODEC's are available for download and installation. I have a couple, that I have had to use with PrPro, and they have worked OK, but not 100% flawlessly.
That, however, does not mean that those same (or newer) BM CODEC's will work in PrE.
There have been a few users (think they were on PrE 8 & 9, and I do not recall one recently), who tried to use their BM cards with PrE, and I do not recall any success. I'd do a search of this forum, to see what those users reported. They, IIRC, were trying to use the hardware, and not just the CODEC's, so their results might not be all that helpful. Even with PrPro, that does support the BM cards, there have been issues with the cards' drivers. In most cases, and again from memory, when the users got the updated drivers from BM, things went well. BM seems to be of a mind that they need to update their drivers, and especially with each new version (either update, or upgrade) of PrPro, and step up quickly. Still, there have been a few weeks, where a card, and the resultant BM Projects, were down, waiting for the new drivers.
Maybe a user of PrE 10 has experience with the BM CODEC's, and can give you a definitive answer to your question, as I just had some general, and probably not very useful, comments.
Good luck,
Hunt

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Blackmagic AVI File Not Working in Premiere Pro CS5.5

I've got a file captured from a BlackMagic Intensity Card that I want to import into a Premiere CS5.5 project, yet Premiere just shows it as a blank green video. The file plays back in VLC, QuickTime, etc. but not in Premiere! Anyone know why? Details of the file are below.
File Path: E:\marc_screen
Type: Blackmagic AVI File
File Size: 85.5 GB
Image Size: 1920 x 1080
Frame Rate: 25.00
Source Audio Format: 48000 Hz - 16 bit - Stereo
Project Audio Format: 48000 Hz - 32 bit floating point - Stereo
Total Duration: 00:14:43:23
Average Data Rate: 99.1 MB / second
Pixel Aspect Ratio: 1.0
############### BMD Importer Supplemental ###############
AVI File Details:
Timecode:
Reel name: ''
User timecode:
Alternative reel name: ''
Contains 1 video track(s) and 1 audio track(s).
Interleave: 1 : 1.00 (conforming required)
Video Track 1:
Size is 1.35G bytes (average frame = 64.10K bytes)
There are 22098 keyframes.
Frame rate is: 25.0000 fps
Frame size is: 1920 x 1080
Video format is 'UYVY' 422 8-bit ITU-R 601
Audio Track 2:
Size is: 161.8506M bytes
Rate is: 48000 samples/sec
Sample size is: 16 bits

I use the card purely for external monitor previewing, so I continue to use the native codecs. However, you need to use a BM timeline preset to drive the output to the external monitor via the BM IP card.
Once editing is complete, it is a doddle to cut and paste all clips used in the sequence into a timeline using an Adobe preset, thereby losing the external monitoring.
A word of caution: I am unable to upgrade to CS5.5.1 on my Win 7 64 system, and have it on reasonable authority that it is because I have the BM IP installed. The upgrade is fine on my non-BM IP laptop!

HD AVI FILE Compatibility

HD AVI FILE Compatibility
I am working with a company to have our family home movies (8mm & super 8mm) from the 50’s-70’s and 35mm color slides restored and transferred onto a digital format
(DVD archive and digital HD-AVI files saved on an external Western Digital 1T hard drive with ESATA, USB 2, and Fire Wire 800 ports)
We would like to have the ability to work with/edit the HD-AVI files to eliminate unwanted footage and be able to make our own HD DVD movies or post onto an online library for family members to download or view.
This will be a very expensive restoration project and we are considering an IMac or
Mac Pro purchase to do the editing of the HD-AVI files and to copy & burn copies from the DVD archive set.
Is the HD-AVI format our best choice…????

I agree and go for the Mac Pro if you're looking to do serious video work. You may be able to get away with the consumer video processing products like iMove, iDVD, Toast as the jump to Final Cut Pro is quite steep.
It's not clear from your post whether you are a current Mac user as you describe yourself as a rookie. The Mac is definitely the way to go for such video work but I wouldn't jump in blind. You are looking to splash some serious money here and its not quite as easy as Mac Pro vs iMac, Final Cut vs iMovie. You need to consider memory and disk configuration and backup strategy etc.
I would definitely recommend a visit to an Apple store or maybe even preferably an authorise Apple dealer where you can sit down for as much time as you need to discuss what you need in hard/software and also for training if needed.
Making things available via the web is also one of your possible requirements so you also need to think of such things as web hosting/MobileMe etc
Sounds an exciting project. I'm currently going through the process of migrating all of our digital video over to my Mac Pro which is obviously not as daunting as moving from film. I'm using iMovie HD which is managing to suit my needs at the moment but I can see a time when I will want to make the jump to Final Cut.
Best of luck
Alan
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PE 10 missing audio from *.avi files?

Hi,
New PE 10 installation. When I add a *.avi file to the timeline or sceneline, I am missing the audio tracks. Don't see the audio tracks. Even when I press the Play button above, there is only video and no audio. But in the Media section, when I select "Edit Original", the avi file plays with audio fine. What am I doing wrong?
Thank you,
Jerry

Read Bill Hunt on a file type as WRAPPER http://forums.adobe.com/thread/440037
What is a CODEC... a Primer http://forums.adobe.com/thread/546811
What CODEC is INSIDE that file? http://forums.adobe.com/thread/440037
Report back with the codec details of your file, use the programs below... a screen shot works well to SHOW people what you are doing
For PC http://www.headbands.com/gspot/ or http://mediainfo.sourceforge.net/en
For Mac http://mediainfo.massanti.com/
Once you know exactly what it is you are editing, report back with that information... and your project setting, and if there is a red line above the video in the timeline, which indicates a mismatch between video and project

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What's the best way to convert .avi files so they can be edited in FCPX and then "shared" with iPad and Apple TV2? Definition of best meaning least amount of time and effort without noticeable degradation of quality. I'm an advanced amateur photographer with increasing interest in video but limited knowledge of the technical aspects.
Now shooting HD with a DSLR camera but have over 100 hours of home/family video taken with Canon GL1 (mini-DV tape) then captured using Sony Vegas Pro. Captured files are .avi, NTSC, 29.97, 720x480, interlaced, 15 minutes or less duration.
Re-capturing original DV tapes to FCPX would be very time consuming. Don't know why but Vegas Pro 8 running on my older PC (Windows XP) refuses to render out to any of the QuickTime presets including uncompressed. Have Adobe Premiere Pro CS5.5, FCPX and Compressor running on new iMac.
My "trial and error" approach isn't working. Main problem seems to be with de-interlacing. Have converted .avi files to ProRes 422 using both Adobe Media Encoder and Apple Compressor. Interlacing "jaggies" are apparent with both when edited in FCPX. Jaggies can be eliminated using combinations of "progressive" field order and "blend frame" output option but this results in artifacts and/or noticeably soft image. Best results so far are by converting .avi to ProRes 422 using Adobe preset (lower field first) then using Apple Compressor's "Apple Device: SD for iPad …" output preset to convert the ProRes 422 to .m2v. Still seems a little fuzzy on iPad but maybe my eyes are just wearing out from all the hours I've spent on this problem.
Thanks in advance for your time and any help you can pass along. The more I work with FCPX, the better I llike it.

MPEG-4 isn't nearly enough information. There are many other factors that determine whether it will work in FCP. Many MPEG-4 files can be imported and optimized directly into the application.

I have AVI files that I need to be MOV files so that I can edit them in Final Cut Pro. I am going to use Quick Time Pro for this....do I have to 'export' it or can I just 'save as', or is there even a difference? Thanks in advance for your help!

I have AVI files that I need to convert to MOV files so that I can edit them in Final Cut Pro. I am going to use Quick Time Pro for this....When I have the files open in QT Pro do I have to 'export' it or can I just 'save as', or is there even a difference? Thanks in advance for your help!

I strongly recommend you use compressor to do the conversion (if it will open the files - since quicktime will open them, it will more than likely do it.
Compressor allows you to customize presets and save them and apply them to multiple files. Although the interface may seem daunting, it's actually pretty simple.
Even if you can edit the avi in fcp, it's not a good idea. Liable to cause problems down the road.

I get the error message in QuickTime "operation stopped the operation is not supported for this media" most times when I try and export an .AVI file as something else (.m4v). I have not touched the file in any way (no trimming, clipping or other editing)

I get the error message in QuickTime "operation stopped the operation is not supported for this media" most times when I try and export an .AVI file as something else (e.g. .m4v). I have not touched the file in any way (no trimming, clipping or other editing), all I want QuickTime to do is export the file in a compressed format. Bizzarely, if I shutdown and open QuickTime many times I can occasionally export a clip as another format (maybe one in 10 times). I have seen that other users have had a similar problem after clipping files in QuickTime but this seems to be a slightly different bug in that all I do is open the file and then try and export the file as is - either way, this is a very annoying bug

@Z_B-B, thank you for taking the time to respond to my cry for help. However, the link you supplied does not address the problem: I am not trying to export from Final Cut Pro to QuickTime, I am trying to export from QuickTime to the rest of the world (like people's iPhones and Ipads) in .m4v format (so I am not emailing my freinds such huge files).
If I were to spend hundreds of Dollars on a copy of Final Pro I could export directly from there and not have to bother with QuickTime, but I do not take enough video clips to justify the cost. I must say that I never had any of these problems before I decided to switch from Snow Leopard to Mountai Lion.

(need help) Replacing AVI files with MOV files in a edit.

I'm working on a large edit that uses low res AVI files for editing,
Though all the high res files are written as MOV's with exactly the same name (just being a different filetype)
Is there a way to automaticly re-link all those avi movies with those high res MOV files?
The edit is quite big, so it would save me a very tedious job

Close Premiere. Change the name of the folder the current AVI files are in. Reopen Premiere. When it asks you where the files are, point it to the new ones.
The only stumbling block may be the different extension. I'm not sure if Premiere will pass that by or trip over it.

Editing .AVI files in Final Cut Pro 5

I am trying to edit .AVI files on Final Cut Pro 5 on a volunteer basis.
I have converted the files to .MOV files with Quicktime Player.
I am able to import one of these files into Final Cut Pro 5, and can even watch it in the viewer.
But when I place it in the Sequence tab to edit it, I get a screen that says "UNRENDERED" for the whole clip.
Based on past experience, the video would be harder to edit in a rendered state.
Any advice on how to edit .AVI files would be much appreciated.

AVI files are quite similar to some .mov files, but the devil is in the details (so to speak.)
You don't give any particulars, so I'm going to assume you're working with standard definition NTSC video. Additionally, I'll assume that your system is PowerPC Mac since only FCP 5.1 and higher supports Intel processors.
FCP uses sequence presets that spell out the parameters for the timeline. If a clip is dissimilar or acquires enough filters to be functionally dissimilar,the timeline will become red for that portion of the timeline. The same is true for the audio portion of the clip.
The terms "QuickTime" and ".mov" (and probably ".AVI" for that matter) are kicked around as if they are specific but in fact they are quite vague. It's like saying you have a Ford; without any additional info like model and year, it's hard to get down to cases.
Use Compressor or QuickTime Pro to convert your footage to DV/DVCPRO-NTSC (if it's SD and you're in North America) and make sure the audio is converted to 48KHz/16-bit. This should match the NTSC presets and your timeline should a "cool" color (dark blue to light green) and playback nicely.
Depending on the amount of processor power your system has, you may be able to play back clips with filters or even two or more layers of video without rendering. To be frank, don't count on it because someone has had well over 5 years to upgrade the system and hasn't so it may be "peaked out" already. You can usually step through the timeline using the arrow keys or by rendering short segments if you practice good "timeline hygiene" i.e., keep the timeline as clean as possible, don't strew clips over many video layers and let them stack up.
That should get you going, I strongly recommend you take a little time to read the help docs/// they actually can help.
Good luck!

I recently purchased QuickTime 7 Pro to convert avi files to mov files for editing on Imovie. However, QuickTime won't play the files. How can I get them to play and how can I convert them to mov files?

I recently purchased QuickTime 7 Pro to convert avi files to mov files for editing on Imovie. However, QuickTime won't play the files. How can I get them to play and how can I convert them to mov files?

I recently purchased QuickTime 7 Pro to convert avi files to mov files for editing on Imovie. However, QuickTime won't play the files. How can I get them to play and how can I convert them to mov files?
Both the AVI and the MOV file extensions refer to the file container and not the compressed data the file contains. Both are generic file containers in that each may contain any valid combination of audio and/or video data that is compatible with the codec component configuration of the system on which the file was created. On the other hand, whether a file is playback compatible, conversion compatible, and/or edit compatible depends on the data actually contained in the file container. So, you are basically dealing with two separate issues here—the container and what is inside it.
Basically, if you want to make your files ediit compatible with iMovie, you must change your file container to one that is acceptable to iMovie and convert the data to edit compatible audio and/or video compression formats as may be necessary. The best approach is to determine what codecs were actually used to create the original AVI files and add them to your system if possible. In most cases a codec package like Perian can be added to your system's codec component configuration to may the AVI file playable. Once they are playable, in the QT 7 app then they can be chnged or converted to file types and compression formats that can be edited in iMovie. (While Perian handles most codecs commonly used to create AVI files, it does not handle all possibilities and, while the Perian codec package still works under cureent Mac OS versions, its development group has decided to drop further development/support of the package.)
Background: AVI is a file container originally developed by Microsoft back in 1992 but for which official support was discontinued about 11 years. Despite its limitations, Windows users still tend to use this file based on its open source ease of use and generic nature, thus, making its use so popular that most users are unwilling to switch to more modern but less generic file types. Since some AVI legacy compression formats have never been transcoded for the Mac or use beyond OS 9 or OS X PPC platforms, it is often important to know what specific compression formats are contained in the AVI file to know which codecs to add to your system and which not to add in order to avoid possible codec conflicts.
You can use many different converters to convert AVI files to iMovie edit compatible files. Most third-party apps contain their own buit-in codecs which do not relay on the Mac codec component configuration. Free ones, like HandBrake, usually have limited conversion capabilities while those that have more varied outputs are usually commercial in nature and will cost you additional cash. QT 7 Pro or the free MPEG Streamclip app allow you to access you own system's component configuration and use any available codec component like DV, AIC, MPEG-4, H.264, Photo JPEG, etc.—all of which are iMovie compatible for editing purposes—but only after making the AVI file QT 7 player compatible.
In order to determine what compression formats wewre used in your AVI files you can
1) Try checking the Finder "Info" window,
2) Use the "Inspector", "Media Info", or "Properties" window of any player app that will open the file, or
3) Use a general media utility app like "MediaInfo" to read the file characteristics.

How to edit (split/crop) original captured avi files

I have a whole library of camcorder tapes that I want to convert. But I don't necessarily want to save all the video.
Let's say the first tape has 15 minutes of good footage that I want to preserve. Then there is 10 minutes that is not worth saving. Then another 20 minutes of video worth saving.
I capture the whole 45 minutes of tape.
How do I edit/split/crop that 45 min .avi file into two .avi files (1st 15 minutes and last 20 minutes).
I know I can edit/crop this within PE (using the full 45 min avi file). But I want to end up with two separate .avi files only saving the material I want to.
Paul

You can also export any part of a project that you want.
Let's say you have 45 minutes of footage in your timeline. You can set the workbar to span the first 15 minutes, and click File > Export. Make sure you check the option that says "workbar only" and not "entire project". Voila, you have a 15 minute DVI.
Then set the workbar to span minutes 26 to 46, export again, and you've got your 20 minute AVI.
I do this all the time.
Also, if the video you want to save is sliced into clips (15 min, 10 min, 20 min), I believe you can also just click on the clip you want to export, then click File > Export, and it will automatically export only the clip you had selected (I'm pretty sure this is possible, since I've accidentally done it - not sure of the particulars since I'm not in front of my home computer).
Would either of those work for you?
Archiving might work, too??? IOW, edit out the bad stuff, then archive your project... that might automatically create the separate AVIs for you...

How import AVI files to my I Mac for editing in Final Cut?

How import AVI files to my I Mac for editing in Final Cut?

You first convert them to ProRes with Compressor or MPEG STREAMCLIP, then import the ProRes files into FCP. FCP doesn't work with the AVI container...footage must be Quicktime, and must be in a codec FCP works with.

How do I get the Codec for Adobe Premiere 6.5?   I have old AVI files I need to edit in a Premiere Elements 9 program.

I have older AVI files from Premier 6.5. I need to edit them in Elements 9, how do I get that old codec?

Thank you for your response. When I said I had tried Camtasia, I meant that I had tried to import the files into Camtasia. However, Camtasia, like Premier Elements, will NOT allow me to import these older Matrox AVI files into their editing programs. These older Matrox AVI files will playback fine in a program I downloaded called "GomPlayer",   Today I discovered that GomPlayer allows me to view the properties of the clip, and they are pasted below. Hopefully, with this newer info, it will help me with my capture sistuation.
Thanks again for your help.
Russell
General
Complete name                            : C:\Users\User\Desktop\Atlanta 2 endorsements so pd.avi
Format                                   : AVI
Format/Info                              : Audio Video Interleave
File size                                : 214 MiB
Duration                                 : 1mn 16s
Overall bit rate mode                    : Variable
Overall bit rate                         : 23.4 Mbps
Writing application                      : Matrox MQSink Filter For MPEG. Format: 4. Build: 2.0.0.269
Video
ID                                       : 0
Format                                   : MPEG Video
Format version                           : Version 2
Format profile                           : 4:2:2@Main
Format settings, BVOP                    : No
Format settings, Matrix                  : Custom
Format settings, picture structure       : Frame
Codec ID                                 : MMES
Codec ID/Info                            : I-frame
Codec ID/Hint                            : Matrox
Duration                                 : 1mn 16s
Bit rate mode                            : Variable
Bit rate                                 : 23.3 Mbps
Maximum bit rate                         : 25.0 Mbps
Width                                    : 720 pixels
Height                                   : 480 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 4:3
Frame rate                               : 29.970 fps
Standard                                 : NTSC
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:2
Bit depth                                : 8 bits
Scan type                                : Interlaced
Scan order                               : Top Field First
Compression mode                         : Lossy
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 2.254
Stream size                              : 214 MiB (100%)

Photoshop Elements 11 can't edit .avi files

I have avi files from my camera. I can run them on windows media player with no problems. I check the codec of the file and is MJPG. I ran G-SPOT and the codec is installed and working fine. My old version of elements (4) had no problems with these files. But elements 11 states codec isn't installed, etc
I am running windows 8 with a fresh install of elements 11.
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When one starts getting beyond the "standard" Video CODEC's, some NLE's (Non Linear Editors) handle things better, than others.
I have both CyberLink's PowerDirector and Magix Movie Edit Pro (albeit older versions), just because each handles some non-standard footage better, than my Adobe NLE's do. Nothing wrong with using a tool, that handles your footage better. We all do it.
Now, I do like the Adobe interface the best, but if one of my versions of Premiere does not do exactly what I need, I use another tool - the toolbox can never have too many options.
Good luck, and if you purchased PrE within 30 days, Adobe will refund your $.
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Editing Camtasia AVI files in CS5?

Greetings,
Previousely I have had no problems editing Techsmith Camtasia Studio files in Adobe Premiere CS4 and previous. However, with CS5 I do not see the TSCC (Techsmith Screen Capture Codec) on the list of Codecs that can be worked with even though it is installed. Maybe something to do with 64bit?
My workflow is that I would rough edit the captured video in Camtasia Studio, export it as an AVI file using the TSCC losless codec.
I would then create a new project in Premiere and choose a custom editing mode from the General Tab and choose Techsmith as the editing mode. Choose the frame rate, frame size, square pixels, progressive etc.
Now with CS5, Techsmith does not even show up as an option, only desktop editing mode.
If I use desktop as the setting and I import my AVI file, I only get the audio and not the video, so it seems like Premiere can't see the codec.
Any suggestions on how to get this to work as I prefer to work in Premiere's edit mode.
Thanks!
Martin

Martin,
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Good luck,
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