Editing a .vob in Premiere Pro CS4 help!

Okay so I had the files for a dvd on my computer and was editing one of the .vob files in Premiere Pro. After I finished what I was doing I was going to re-save the file and burn it back to dvd, but I couldn't find a way to save/extract it as a .vob!
Is this possible and I just missed it somewhere?
If not possible, how could I do that? Encore maybe?
Thanks a lot!!

Premiere Elements will do the Import, editing and then Burn to DVD (creating VOB's, plus the other necessary files and structure). It has some of the same editing capabilities as PrPro, plus a very limited authoring function.
Now for the caveat - you knew that one was coming, right? With a VOB, you have an MPEG-2 AV file, inside the VOB container. It has already been pretty heavily compressed. When you edit that material, and then Transcode it for another DVD-Video, you WILL be re-compressing that footage, and will loose quality. Some NLE programs do offer "smart rendering," but even then, if you do more than just cut the footage, like add Titles, Transitions, color correction, etc., even they will have to Transcode again, at least for the Clips, where you made changes. I think that Vegas Studio Pro offers smart rendering, as might some others. This you will have to research a bit, and read their statements carefully, to make sure what they are capable of and where there are limitations.
Note: a VOB is a delivery format/container. The MPEG-2 portion is not meant to be edited - just played on a set-top player, or a computer with a DVD software player. Cameras that produce miniDVD's are meant have those played only. They were never intended to be edited.
Good luck,
Hunt

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This is all kind of like sneaking into Santa's bag to see if the new toys he's gonna bring us are durable enough to play with until NEXT Christmas, when it's only a couple of weeks away from THIS Christmas.
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I'm just about positive that everything's not going to work as well as we want, that it's not going to do quite enough of the stuff we need it to do, and that there will be bugs. The people who scream the loudest about current missing features or feature requests will probably be continuing the trend in the near future. Adobe reps will be very interactive on the forums for a few weeks or months while we all troubleshoot in our working environments and then they will disappear until it gets close to the next release.
BONUS ROUND - Mobutu (or jujufactory...right?) will still not upgrade, and will still demand support in a software he doesn't use for hardware that he doesn't use while likewise judging everything invented prior to the last 5 weeks to be "OBSOLETE!!"
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One of the After Effects documentation guys just provided a summary (per forum user request) of EVERYTHING that was modified/added/removed in CS4, in spite of the various ways of gleaning the information from the online docs. So...maybe if we keep hollering, we'll get the same thing here....?
C'mon Adobe...it's not like you're busy working on CS4 anymore. After all, the release of CS5 is only ONE YEAR AWAY!!! GO GO GO!!!
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Hello,
Prior to posting, I read numerous posts related to importing vob files in Premiere. None of them seemed to address the particular problem I am experiencing, and I was hoping to find an answer here in the forums. Here's what I am attempting to accomplish:
1) Export the vob files (there are 4 of them) from a commercial movie DVD to hard disk
2) Import the vob files into a Premiere Pro CS4 4.1 project
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4) Replace the sound in two very short segments to eliminate profane language so that my children may watch the movie
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Welcome to the forum.
Now, you have several problems, but most are with your choice of equipment and your workflow, not your choice of an NLE.
I took a wedding video from 1990 on a VCR tape and turned it to digital via a Dazzle hardware unit that plugs into the computer. It gives me vob files with no menus or anything like that
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Most other equipment and workflows are kludges and seldom work at any level.
A good workman does not blame his tools. He might blame his choice of tools, but not the tools. Unfortunately, you chose a piece of hardware that doesn't usually work with the included software, and are blaming a great NLE program, because you are trying to work with horribly bad footage.
Please do yourself a favor. Donate the Dazzle to Goodwill, and look at the Canopus/Grass Valley 110. The price differential is not that great, and you will keep all of your hair.
Good luck,
Hunt
PS just did 34 VHS tapes via the above suggestions (some LP and some EP), and got many hours of usable footage. Not one glitch. No OOS. Every file edited perfectly in PrPro and I delivered 15 DVD-5's, that the client loved. I paid for a Canopus 300 with just my time on one project.
PPS, please see my post #5 for a link to an article on VOB files.
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Harm,
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