Editing audio waveforms

Is it possible to edit waveforms? I've only been able to create a start and stop point. What I'd like to do is make custom edits in the audio that will be added to my project.
If anyone is familiar with the editing features in Cooledit/Adobe..this is what I am trying to accomplish.
Thanks for your help.

Photoshop CS6 Beta is not supporting audio waveforms.
This request represents a significant amount of feature work, though.
Thanks for the suggestion, we're tucking it away for a future version.
Meredith

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Is there some hidden window or command that I'm missing?

tonypatti wrote:
I'm assuming you mean in the timeline. So you trim your clips in the timeline, and not in the clips window? I've noticed there is no Viewer window, as in FCP 7, and I used to refine my clips in that window, setting in and out points with simple keystrokes. Is this how we do it in X? In the Timeline window?
It depends on my needs... Each event library-clip has its own timeline too...
All you need to do is right-click the clip in the event library and select "Open in Timeline"
There you can trim the audio or clip with much greater precision than in the event library itself...
In FCPx -- EACH clip in the event library is contained within its own mini-project... That is why you can "open" it in its own timeline... The event library is so powerful in this way. You could even select a clip and hit "Open in Timeline" and drag another clip into that.... That would automatically turn the clip into a compound clip (which is essentially a project)... the possibilities are endless... And so is the zoom ;-)))) If you do it this way !
PS -- You can create a short key for "open in timeline" should you find yourself annoyed with right-clicking all the time
PPS -- You state "no viewer window".... As of 10.0.7 FCPx has TWO viewers.. One for events and one for the project... Hit ctrl+command + 3 to show/hide it...
You should take your time with the app and NOT look at it as if it was FCP7
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I'm shooting documentary footage on RED cameras at 6K resolution. That generates a large amount of media. The RDC format records R3D media files in 4GB chunks, which is actually relatively short compared to my hours-long media captures. I've discovered that it's very handy to simply delete the R3D files from the RDC folder in cases where nothing is actually happening at that moment. Since each R3D media file is timecode stamped, these actually stay in sync with my master audio track. And Premiere Pro sensibly places gray diagonal bars where the underlying R3D files are missing. All good.
What's not good is that Premiere Pro confuses itself about the starting point of the PEK files. Instead of simply greying out the part of the audio waveforms that are missing due to the missing media, it shifts the *waveform* to start at the location of the first R3D clip that is present, which is wrong. If I clean the cache, quit the project, restart the project, and let it rebuild the cache, the audio waveform is correctly drawn.
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A slightly quicker way to do what you described for an images is to select 'Duplicate version' instead of 'New version from Master' and then 'Remove adjustments' from version 1. This will leave you with the first version as the 'before' and the second version as the 'after' without having to use L&S.
If you need to do this for 108 images, it might be quicker to do the following:
Export Masters for all 108 images.
Reimport these into a new project (called 'before', for example)
You will then have a new project with the 'before' images and your original project with the 'after' images. You could then build an album to group all of these together. When you've finished with the 'before' & 'after' images (build your web gallery or emailed them or whatever), simply delete the 'before' project.
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How do I synchronize multiple *sequential* clips using audio waveforms in Premiere Pro CC?

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Thanks.

I'm an editing newbie but this was the very first task I needed to do, i.e. align multiple video clips with a single audio track. My setup is similar. I'm shooting with a Canon 70D, which breaks up video into 4gb clips, which are continuous and easy to align end to end. But the 70D like the 5D only shoots for 30 minutes continuously, so a second or two is lost hitting record again. My external audio was recorded continuously with a camera mounted Tascam (like a zoom) with a line in to the camera. So, in theory, the audio should be the same on the external audio and the audio associated with the video clips, which probably helps the software identify the identical wave forms.
I found that I could roughly align the video clips based on the audio wave forms and then "synchronize" the audio as shown in the video (Merge clips automatically using audio waveforms | Adobe Premiere Pro CC tutorials). I found that this aligned the audio perfectly but separated the video from its associated audio track. But it's easy to select the video and snap it back into alignment with its audio. While it would be nice to have everything merge automatically, using synchronize sequentially did not take much time.
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cannot be changed. At first I thought perhaps we might see a change
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one audio clip to a local drive and see if the
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