Editing AVCHD Lite files in FCE 4?

Anybody using a Panasonic camera ZS7 with FCE?
I understand that the easiest way is to import video files from this camera is to use Elgato turbo.264HD to convert the video files from the camera AVCHD Lite in to 264H and edit in FCE.
Any suggestions will be appreciated

I'm using a Panasonic FZ38 ..
http://sites.google.com/site/karstenschluter/a-lite-logging-with-fc-e
teaches FC/e that feature ..
WARNING: You'll probably violate the End-User-LIcence-Agreement performing that simple Finder-operation! (depends on local laws, advice in link is meant only as a technical description)
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Handling AVCHD Lite files in PE7

After much research and trial and error, I thought I would share what I have found about this topic. There does seem to be a couple of ways to handle these clips without PE7 falling over every time, though teh first is very tedious. If anyone can find a better way, please let me know?
First convert the clips to HDV
1. Transfer all clips to the PC. You can use PE7 to do this or the Panasonic supplied s/w. It seems that only the .MTS file is necessary
2. Start a new project using the HDV 720p setting
3. Import one AVCHD lite clip by copying from Windows folder into project widow.
4. Move to timeline and wait until the video images appear fully with the red line over the top.
5. Render (Slow process: >5 hours for a 1:30 clip on a 2.67 GHz Quad Processor)
6. Export (Share) as a new PC file into a different folder as an MPEG file using HDV 720p 25 file preset.
7. Back to 3. For the next clip
Note: You can do more than 1 clip at a time but the more & bigger clips the more likely PE7 is to stop working.
Edit Project
When you have all the clips converted, start a new project using the HDV 720p settings, import your converted clips and edit away!
Notes This is a tedious and time consuming process even on a new PC with a Quad processor but it does eventually work.
Note to Self: Next time, it may be better to use Motion JPEG to record video on TZ7. Set at HD, you get the same resolution as AVCHD lite i.e. 1280x720 at a frame rate of 30fps. This might also give a better result when panning.
PS: You can also use the Panasonic PhotofunStudio HD edition to import the file and use their editor to delete unwanted portion of the clips. This might save time but the numbering system on the Panasonic clips is unusual.
Much Faster Method
You can use VoltaicHD from Shedworx to do the conversion to a WMA/Vor an AVI file. This seems to work quickly and simply but will cost you $35. Cheap if you have a lot to do!

An even better solution is to use the free AVCHD Converter to convert the AVCHD Lite clips to 1280x720 MPEG2. It can batch convert a bunch of AVCHD Lite clips and is free...
http://www.koyotesoft.com/
Import the clips, up the bit rate to 25000kbps and convert. Use these in the HDV 720 project preset in Premiere Elements.

Is anybody editing AVCHD Lite?

Hello,
I have been using a work flow on CS4 with Canon 5DMarkII video, coverted in Neoscene, and editing in Premeire.
I am also using the much smaller Panasonic GF1 which captures video in AVCHD Lite and Mpeg video; I am unable to convert with Neoscene. Anybody have a solution.
Thanks alot
john
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How about reading previous discussions?
http://forums.adobe.com/search.jspa?communityID=3381&resultTypes=MESSAGE&q=avchd+lite

AVCHD Lite users!

While trying to Log and Capture from an AVCHD Lite capable camera in FCE still produces videos at double speed, there is now a workaround! iMovie just updated to a new version, and includes updates to be able to handle these files without error. Simply import your AVCHD Lite files into iMovie, create an XML file, bring it into FCE, and you're good to go! This is great news to hold me over until FCE updates to support these cameras as well.
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Since this is a Final Cut Express forum most people reading that comment about wanting to edit AVCHD/AVCHD Lite natively will understand that isn't part of the current workflow for Final Cut Express.
These codecs are deemed unsuitable for live edits because of the overhead of reassembling frames during edits so they are always transcoded into the more friendly but somewhat larger Apple Intermediate Codec.
Sound choice to do it this way. Performance and real time video is important whilst disk space is cheap. I'm happy with this arrangement myself and my footage costs me about 1Gb per minute with my Sony camcorder.
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pocket camera:
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Is there an FCE support forum?
Yes, and this is it.
Feel free to ask questions on the use of FCE or search the forum for existing Q&As.
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My G5 powerpc won't cut it, I get it. So, if I have the canon vixia hf11 how much computing power do I need to edit AVCHD? What mac will make it work reasonably well.

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