Editing DVCPro HD Without Having to Render

Hey All,
I'm editing a project I shot with the Panasonic HVX-200 in 720 24p...I've imported the footage successfully onto FCP 5, but I have to render the footage every time I place it into my sequence.
Is there a way around this? This is my first time editing HD, so it might be a problem with my settings, but I think I've done that correctly...
Any help/advice would be much appreciated...

Click on your timeline and press APPLE-0 (zero) and see what your presets are. Typically if you create a new project, THEN choose an Easy Setup, the Sequence 1 will have the old settings. Creating a new sequence after you choose an easy setup is a good trick.
Plus...if your footage is 720p24 but 24 over 60 (59.94 fps) then choosing a 720p24 easy setup won't work for you, as it is 23.98. Look at your clips settings.
Shane

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James
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