Editing iPhoto photos in external editor, i.e., PSE

iMac running Mavericks OS.
From iPhoto, when I click a photo to edit in external editor (PSE), I am taken to the pse editor, but my photo is not.
Why is the photo not appearing?

Because you chose the logical file instead of the correct one as your external editor. The PSE icon at the top level of the PSE folder in Applications is just an alias for the welcome screen. The actual editor is buried way down in support files:

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Welcome to the Apple Discussions. I get the same response when I follow your workflow. If you select the thumbnail of that photo and use the Photos ➙ Revert to Original menu option you will be able to view the photo in full size.
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It definitely is a bug. However, it's not taking up more space on the hard drive than the edit that resulted in a modified file linked to the original file. There still are just two files.
Subsequent edits to the file with the external editor result is the edits being added to the file with no problems if iPhoto is closed and relaunched. The downside is that if you make 3 edits to the file you can't go back one edit. It's non reversible. The edited version can be deleted leaving the untouched original version.
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So Old Toad, I have just gone from iPhoto 9 to iPhoto 11 and step by step this is what is happening for me.
In iPhoto 9 if I selected photoshop to alter an image it created one duplicate version of the image and put that into the modified folder and that edited image became the image you would see in the events viewer. All very logical.
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