Editing keywords outside Aperture, safe or not?

Wanting to maker the most of keywords, and aware that they can be made almost infinitely hierarchical, I see from page 268 of the User Manual that it is in theory possible to Export the keywords from the Keyword HUD into, say, BBEdit. Then to edit them into the groups one wants, respecting the TAB conventions and re-import them once they're just as you want.
Has anyone done this? Is it really as easy as it seems? It sure would be easier than scrolling up and down inside the HUD.
But is the file which the HUD works on a simple tsv file - and not XML?
IOW, are there pitfalls, or is it what many keyword 'fanatics' do?
TIA!

Pretty sure it ignores it.
So say I have this in Aperture now (hierarchy)
a->b->c
And now I edit and import this:
a->b->c->d
The results in Aperture should reflect that, and you'll only have d added to the hierarchy.
I tinkered with this a fair bit a few months ago and was relatively comfortable that it "did the right thing."
Note, this is very easy to experiment with. Keywords follow an Aperture library. So, to eliminate any risk, create a new Aperture library, create a small keyword hierarchy, export it, edit the text file, putting new keywords all over the place, and import it and ensure all is good. I did this and was happy, but I'd say if you checked my work you'd probably be more comfortable. You know, "trust, but verify" and all that

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