Editing Panasonic GH1 1280 x 720 60 frame video

I got an old Macbook with previous ver of iMovie which does not support editing AVCHD. I know that iMovie 09 is able to handle AVCHD and support video from Panasonic GH1, so I am planning to a get a new mac with new OS and iMovie 09. Would anyone please share your experience in using iMovie 09 with GH1? I shot the footage in 1280 x 720 60 frames per second in AVCHD format. I understand that iMovie will convert it to Apple properitary video format for editing, my questions are:
1. is the response time acceptable? I believe it is quite hardware demanding for 720p video editing. What is the time rquired for say, a C2D iMac 2.xxGHz 4GB Ram for cutting or addition of transition effect? Do you have to wait for say 30 sec to add a 4 sec transition effect between two footages?
2. what is the output format of the edited video, can it be re-coded to AVCHD so that I may burn it on a DL DVD for paying on a PS3 or blu-ray player?

I got the camera and used in my trip to London last month. Very unlucky that there is no Apple Store where I live in HK, there is only reseller. I will try to test it with my friend new Macbook Pro 13".
If iMovie only import the video at 30 frames, it would not be a solution for GH1 users as the camera shoot at 60 frames which produce very smooth video which I watch the un-edited video on a PS3.
I was quite frustrated with the proper software for editing the AVCHD video. I thought many camera/video camera users shooting so-called hd video would face the same problem.

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HD 1280 x 720 , Skips Frames with Quicktime 7.*

Quicktime skips frames when I'm trying to play a video I created with my Digital camera.(Kodak Z1275) Its not the camera because it plays flawlessly on screen. I upload the file to the computer and Quicktime skips a few seconds throughout the entire file.When I uploaded the HD 1280 x 720 file to Youtube it plays flawlessly.
So the conclusion is its not my computer since the file plays perfect with Youtubes encoder.(I even brought the file to the store I purchased the camera from, the same problem) The Problem is with Quick time player!
Also when I select 1/2 speed playback speed in the Quick time player it is very smooth!Conclusion Player encoder does not like 1280 mode?
I have the latest version and even went to the trouble of purchasing Quick time Pro 7 (that I regret)
Any help from the apple gang?

The only conclusion is Quicktime is not able to process the larger 1280 x 720 format. Only the MAC boys can help! You have to get enough people complaining or find another player encoder that will work with the .mov file.
Kodak, the makers of the camera blame it on Quicktime's obsolete program. Not enough users to make it worth changing or maybe its in the works now.
Seems like Kodak got ahead of Quicktime's ****** player

Editing 2 file types in 1 Sequence (1080i60 & 1280 x 720 Flip)

I began a Sequence that is 1440 x 1080, Upper Field, 29.97, Compressor HDV 1080i60, Audio 48 KHz, 16-bit and that is working fine. But, I then added new footage from a Flip camera (1280 x 720, Square Pixel Aspect Ratio, No field dominance, Editing Timebase 30, Compressor: H.264, and same audio settings as original sequence.) This footage plays fine in the viewer but as soon as I place it into the Timeline the audio and video are wildly out of synch. I did set my Prefs to ask when conforming, but it does not ask. I try to manually do so, and it renders, but does not seem to actually change the file format. I adjust the percentage in the Canvas (because sometimes this causes funky playback), and that seems to work once or twice, but not consistently. I tried exporting the Flip Footage with the same exact settings as the Sequence and then re-importing and it's the same problem. I tried a new sequence with the new Flip Footage and that too is inconsistent. I feel as though I have tried everything I know to do-- but can't get a handle on what exactly is wrong, nor how to fix it. Thanks in advance for any sage advice!

I got the camera and used in my trip to London last month. Very unlucky that there is no Apple Store where I live in HK, there is only reseller. I will try to test it with my friend new Macbook Pro 13".
If iMovie only import the video at 30 frames, it would not be a solution for GH1 users as the camera shoot at 60 frames which produce very smooth video which I watch the un-edited video on a PS3.
I was quite frustrated with the proper software for editing the AVCHD video. I thought many camera/video camera users shooting so-called hd video would face the same problem.

Panasonic GH1 - AVCHD 720 60P Project

I ordered a Panasonic GH1 and I intend to use the AVCHD 720 60P mode.
I understand that its probably using coding with H.274 Main Profile Level 4.0 at 17Mbps.
I already downloaded some sample videos but I cannot edit them in this mode.
1) How do I create a AVCHD 720 60P project? I cannot find such a preset?
2) Since I do not want to loose any image quality, I only intend to cut / assemble my clips with very limited editing hoping that I can re-export with minimal re-coding in exactly the same format, profile, bit rate, etc... How can I do this?

Well, I'll be more specific then - I was reluctant to appear to be using Adobe's forums for touting the features of competitive apps, but at the end of the day nobody in their right mind would say that, for all people and for all purposes, progam "A" is better than program "B" for editing video. It depends on what you in particular are wanting to do, the style in which you are wanting to do it, and the source device (camera / camcorder) and host PC that you are using. In reading the following, Your Mileage May Vary!
Currently I have PE7, Pinnacle Studio 12.1 and Cyberlink PowerDirector 8 (just released) on my PC. And Nero 9. My source video comes from Panasonic SD5 and Panasonic GH1 devices, in AVCHD format. The former is 1080 and the latter does that and 720 as well.
In brief, my personal views on these are as follows:-
PE7 - a much more "pro" interface than the others, and I like some of the details like being able to use separate audio and video transitions. But it doesn't like the 720 footage from my GH1, and it doesn't create AVCHD DVDs which are my preferred output medium (highest quality at lowest cost, as compared with blu ray). There are ways around this that I've described some months back, and possibly some even better ways that I really should document some time (using freeware) but it's a pity it's not built in.
Studio 12.1 - An interface that seems targetted at kids rather than adults, and the way it goes about some aspects of video editing don't suit my personal approach. It handles all the types of AVCHD that I've tried it with and creates AVCHD DVDs directly with menus, but it's due for an update in terms of its efficiency in handling AVCHD - you need a PC with clout to get a fluid feel when working on the timeline.
Nero 9 - Has the ability to smart render some (by no means all) AVCHD footage, so if you simply want to edit with no bells and whistles, you can do so and then render to AVCHD file or AVCHD DVD in the time taken to copy the data - no processing happens, and no quality loss is involved. If I was running a newsroom I'd be sending out my teams with cameras that took Nero-compatible footage and do the editing really fast in Nero ready for the next news bulletin. But I'd hope no effects etc were required as that's not what Nero is good at. IT handles GH1 AVCHD footage of both resolutions but only smart renders 1080.
PowerDirector 8 - this can use the processing power of certain Cuda-compatible (and other) graphics cards to give a significant boost to AVCHD playback and rendering performance. On my 9300 quad core PC I've got it to play four rotated picture-in-picture images on top of a base image all sourced from AVCHD before the PC maxed out performancewise. It really does make it unnecessary to transcode to something else for effective editing (though you still need a pretty up to date PC). It accepts GH1 AVCHD (both resolutions) and outputs to AVCHD DVD with menus (and to the other formats you'd expect) but it's smart rendering capability does rather vary with the source - my AVCHD devices don't seem to be on its smart rendering list. However, rendering is significantly faster than with other apps I've tried and I think the quality is good - though some people on the Cyberlink forum don't agree. As I said, YMMV. It has some nice features but the most childish-looking interface of all of them - quite embarrasing to use.
I guess my ideal program would combine the pro look of Premiere Elements, the efficiency of PowerDirector 8, and the smart rendering of Nero. One day...
Never buy a video editing app on someone else's recommendation. Try before you buy on your system using your footage.

FCE Import Issues with 720p resolution (from Panasonic GH1)

I cannot import 1280x720, 50fps videos from my Panasonic GH1 using the log and transfer window. If I try, the system crashes. Still they play in the preview window. With full HD everything works fine. I would assume that this format is not supported, since it does not show up in the easy setup menu (only 1920x1080 and 1440x1080 available).
The files imported using iMovie08 can be loaded with no issues. I would assume this is because the have already been converted.
Does FCE definitively not support import of 1280x720 material or am I doing something wrong?
Thanks in advanced

Hi,
the GH1 shoots full hd 1980x1080 with 25fps (30 for US market). I prefer using 1280x720 (which seems to be AVCHD lite?) with 50fps (60fps for US) which reproduces movement better.
Imovie09 convert those formats (AVCHD 25fps and AVCHD lite 50fps) to AIC while keeping the original format and frame speed. FCE can import the AIC files at the different formats - this I can see from what FCE is telling me in the browser.
In FCE I mixed both formats (1080 at 25fps & 720 at 50fps) in a small project and managed to get this exported to 1080 or 720 at different frame rates. I have not yet figured out what how the movie quality compares to each other, but IT WORKS.
Unless I have forgotten something FCE seems to handle all these formats but crashes as soon as I try to import of 1280x720@50fps files.
Which in fact brings me back to my question why FCE crashes. With all this capability of handling the different formats I would not have expected a program crash during file import. Which in facts makes me doubt if there still is something wrong....
I guess I should better start reading the manual.
Good Luck

Log and transfer footage from Panasonic GH1 into FCE

I have already read the few threads discussing importing AVCHD video from the Panasonic GH1 camera into FCE. I was expecting that the 1080x24 (wrapped in 60i) would import OK but the 720x60p would not. However, so far, I have had both formats import using the log and transfer just fine. These have been only short clips roughly a minute or less in length but no sign of FCE crashing when importing the 60p footage.
So, is this considered normal or has something in the most recent OSX updates fixed this FCE capability?

The program is usually able to ingest 24p and 60p footage fine, but upon exporting it will be conformed to the frame rate of your sequence. Since FCE doesn't support custom sequences all exported movies are either in 29.97fps or 25fps. Problems also sometimes arise where the program interprets your footage as 29.97fps instead of what it actually is, causing the audio to drift a bit as well.
Better to stick to what the program supports: 50i/25p and 60i/30p. If you need the functionality of 24p or 60p you should upgrade to Final Cut Pro.

Can I paste a 1280 x 720 slide into a 1680 x 1050 presentation?

I'd like to be able to paste samples of various shows in various resolutions into a single presentation without hyperlinks. I'm presenting on my 17", so I'd like to use the full-screen resolution, 1680 x 1050. I'd like to paste a 1280 x 720 show into it, but Keynote automatically resizes every frame, and everything scales inaccurately do to the difference in aspect ratios. I don't want to have to rebuild every slide. I know I can copy the contents of each slide and paste it onto a blank slide in the final presentation, and the animations copy over, but the transitions get lost. Is there a way to either import the file or copy the complete slide show from the navigator and maintain the integrity of the original?

Thanks -
I hadn't thought of 1680 x 945, I'll try that next go-round.
In the meantime, I created a special frame inside my target presentation, and just copied and pasted the elements I wanted from the smaller slides into the frame in a slide-by-slide process. It actually worked perfectly, and allowed me to highlight the samples in a worthwhile way.
But thanks for the hint! It'll come in handy soon.

1280 X 720 29.97 FPS Setup

Greeting,
I'm starting up Premier Pro CS6 and I get this huge selection of formats I could setup for everything but what I "think" I need.
What I Need
Final output will be to YouTube but I want to set the file up for full res and then render from that. I've been told to set up a file at 1280 X 720 @ 29.97fps and I should be able to get what ever I need from that but I don't see it as a preset in the first window that opens in Premier. I see things that are close but there doesn't appear to be a way to edit them and save.

Hey thanks for the quick reply.
Actually, I don't have any source footage yet. Most of it will be still photos with some video from a stock house of which I will look for something that is at the size I'm after. So I guess that means my editing sequence will need to be 1280 X 720 @ 29.97fps. I suppose if the stock footage is only available at 30fps when I import it my project will ask if I want to adjust to the import settings. Do I just ignore the New Seqence preset window. Sorry I'm a neophyte at PR.
Saving Preset
You mention I can export this setup. I'm assuming there is an export preset dialog somewhere that will ask me what to call it? yes? Or will it give me options like "YT .264"?
Also, what does the YT stand for? I've seen the .264.

Can you make files at 1280 X 720?

1.) Is it possible to make a file in Flash at 1280 X 720 and so I can import it into Final Cut Pro and edit it together with other video shot at 720?
2.) Are there issues with doing this?
Thanks!

Just want to make sure that there are no issues with doing something like this because Flash was originally designed to do web stuff and not video like this, as far as I understand it at least. It will be a piece about 15 seconds.
Thanks.

SH inputting on Panasonic GH1 into Final Cut Express

Hi
I have just bought a Panasonic GH1 and I am struggling to import (Log and Transfer) clips which have been filmed in "SH" mode, which is 720p format (50fps). The clips are AVCHD. When I film in "FHD" mode, which is 1080p it imports these fine, with no issue at all?
I have altered the setting in the Easy Set up menu, but every time I try and drag the clips in, Final Cut Express crashes?
Does anyone have any ideas as to why this is happening?
Any direction or support is much appreciated.
Many thanks, Martin

Martin Wells wrote:
.. 720p format (50fps). The clips are AVCHD. When I film in "FHD" mode, which is 1080p it imports these fine, with no issue at all?..
FCE4 does not support 720/50p, only 25/30p ..
according to Panas press release your device offers 1080 as 50i/60i not p ...
FCE4 supports 1080/50/60/i

Using 1280 x 720 HD video in a NTSC DV FCP project

Ok - My company is putting together a marching band DVD for a school. The footage has been shot by different volunteer parents with different recording formats on their cameras. Our job is to combine the footage into a multicamera shoot and put the whole finished product on a SD DVD.
A Majority of the footage we received is in standard def: 720 x 480. 29.97 DV NTSC
However, the wideshot footage is in the following HD format: 1280 x 720. 30 FPS H.264. It is a .mov file
So...
We created a sequence to match the SD format, rendered the wideshot footage to match that sequence and edited everything together.
We then exported using compressor with the traditional SD setting and burned the disc via DVD studio pro.
When we watch the footage on any TV (SD or HD), everything looks fine except for the wideshots (HD footage). There is a "trippy" or "robotic" look to any movement that occurs in these shots.
What have we done wrong? Is it related to the 30fps vs 29.97 FPS? I thought FCPs rendering automatically converts / fixes this.
What can be done to fix this problem?

The DV was interlaced, the HD is prgressive. That's one issue. You didn't see the motion artifacts on your computer because that's a progressiuve display. The MPEG2 DVD is interlaced.
Solving it? Hmm, I'll let some others try to make useful suggestions. Gotta go back to work myself.
bogiesan

Why is 960 x 720 really 1280 x 720???

Really confused at this second. I shot on the HVX200, 720P... which frame size is 960 x 720... but then why when you output or look at the actual file it states that its size is 1280 x 720?
Anyone?

If you'd read the Terms of use, you would realize this is a site for supporting/problem solving technical issues with FCP. It is not intended to offer instruction in video 101.
Lyndia.com and ken stone's site offer a number of tutorials and other support mechanisms that you may find enlightening.
Good luck.
x
fwiw - anamorphic originally refered to lenses that compressed the image horizontally but not vertically so that there was a non-linear relationship between the image in real life and what was recorded on film. The film had a 4:3 aspect ratio but, by using a lens that compressed the horizontal when recording and using the reciprocal lens when projecting, one could record and play back much wider aspect ratios.
What is relevant about that bit of history is that anamorphic has come to mean the recording of pixels that are wider than they are tall, with the result the 960 horizontal resolution pixels take up a 1280 space. Of course, you know video has always used a non-square pixel. In terms of Standard definition, it has been narrower than tall, eg DV SD is 720x480, which has a square pixel equivalent of 640x480 (a 4:3 ratio). Anamorphic 16:9 means the pixels are wider than tall. The specific width varies with the codec. It is a way to save bandwidth and to get more out of a limited format.

AIC 1280 X 720 to MPEG-2 Looks like crud using imovie | buy compressor?

Repost from "compressor" group.
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=2075563&tstart=0
I am a complete newbie to the video editing and compression world. Please forgive me and thank you in advance for your advice.
Here is the low down. I am using Final Cut express. I edited a 4 hours training video with screenshots and some screen capture. This is training video on how to use some technical database software so the screen captures are movies of my computer screen captured with iShowU. My FCE sequence and screen capture video was recorded using Apple Intermediate Codec 1280 x 720. When I try to use imovie to burn the footage to a DVD everything looks very grainy. It looks like crud. When I export to Quicktime in the AIC format looks great.
Since I am a newbie, I know I probably should have recorded my screen captures in another codec and not 1280 x 720. Hindsight is 20/20.
I have noticed when I export from Final Cut Express to H.264 it even starts too look grainy. I really need to actually get in on several DVDs in the MPEG-2 format.
So my questions for you is:
Do you think this is something that Compressor will handle? Can I take 1280X720 AIC and use compressor to encode to MPEG-2 and not get grainy resolution? I think compressor can crop instead of scale which I think is what iMovie is doing when it encodes from AIC to MPEG-2. I was using the iMove professional encoding and even tested it with a 30 second clip and it looks like crud. I know compressor offers more fined grained control. I think the grainy MPEG-2 results are from iMovie trying to scale from 1280x720 to 720x480. (I think)
Or should I go back and create a new sequence and re-record all my screen captures in a better resolution that is DVD/MPEG-2 compatible.
I am not sure if this is a screw up in my choice of capture resolution or if it is a limitation of imovie. I am just hesitant to drop the coin on FCP if this is not going to work. Thanks again

No, I don't think Compressor can handle it. MPEG-2 is too heavily compressed to handle compressing screen captures. It's always going to look awful. The limitation is in the DVD format and MPEG-2. Most training DVDs for software are not made using MPEG-2, but using computer formats with a runtime player for playback on a computer monitor not a TV set.

Premiere Elements 9 with Panasonic GH1 & G13

The title is to help Google!
First hiccup, the Adobe ID entry box won't work unless your Adobe ID is an email address. Mine isn't. Fortunately you can skip that stage.
Choose "New Project" and the program crashes... ah, I see it's trying to read my VST's. Bad design - that should be enabled if the user wants to later on. Fortunately most of mine are where PE9 won't find them.
There's a promising set of presets (though as before, the PE requirement to choose precise presets is not found in other such programs, but that's probably buried too deep in the software to change).
Drag a Panasonic GH1 1080i clip onto the timeline, and it wants to change the preset I chose, so I click "yes". And it plays, which is something. Now I drag a 720p clip onto the timeline, and it displays a red line above the clip on the timescale, and only shows the watermark (which oddly does not appear in the 1080i clip playback). When I hit "enter" to render that portion, it still just displays the watermark. Ah, click on the window and the video is displayed under the watermark. But the video will not play without going back to the watermark only display.
Going from earlier posts, I have now to decide whether to ignore the claim that this is a fully functional demo and pay to make it fully functional, or wonder forever how well it might have worked if I'd bought it.
Aha again - I delete everything so far, and drag the 720p clip on its own onto the timeline. The project preset is automatically changed again (after confirmation), and it plays fine with no watermark. Good! Put the 1080i clip afterwards, and that gets the watermark treatment.
Let's try rendering the present state of the timeline to H264 1080i - off it goes, at a render speed a bit less than half speed (2 minutes of material in 4 minutes on the Q6300 quad core PC) which in comparison with programs seems slow, especially with all cores going flat out. Does this program support Cuda? No sign of it at a glance.
Completed render plays back fine and (apart from the watermark) looks perfectly OK in picture quality and resolution terms.
A minor annoyance which might not apply to anyone else - here I have two PCs using a shared keyboard and mouse using "Maxivista" to swap the mouse and keyboard to whichever screen the mouse is on. When I go to the PC not running PE9, playback stops.
Well, if only to make my earlier investment in PE8 worthwhile, I'll go for it and I'll add more detailed comments once the program is really fully functional... then I'll test whether G13 footage (Panasonic GH1 footage using non-standard firmware, giving much higher than standard bitrates) works or not.

Well, before plonking down my money I've tried a couple of "GH13" 1080i clips, which have bitrates outside the official AVCHD spec (eg around 35mbps in this case) and they play fine too.
I notice that when I click on "full screen" at the top of the interface that the playback then has artifacts which are caused by the timeline refreshing under the full screen playback - a bar across the screen which comes from elsewhere in the picture being played. Anyone else see that? That's with standard AVCHD or mpeg footage. Just possibly the kind of thing which checking for current NVIDIA drivers might fix?
As soon as I try to put a picture in picture with AVCHD material, the playback framerate drops drastically - that part of the timeline has to be rendered. In other recent software that's not required - off the top of my head I'd get four tracks to play at once. I'd say PE9 is well behind the game in terms of the efficiency of the timeline playback engine. Even rendering that part of the timeline is painfully slow. Still, maybe there are quality tradeoffs - one program I use doesn't attempt to give full definition playback from the timeline, leading to a slighly blurred look in the playback monitoring window, but that does mean it can show more complex timelines unrendered.

From Keynote to YouTube 1280 x 720 HD

Hello,
I'm struggling to directly export from Keynote to YouTube on HD definition, namely 1280 x 720 my presentation...
The Keynote menu seems to only offer 640 x 360 or 480 x 272
Any method, is it possible or just blocked by Apple ?
Thank you in advance, Albert

I've tried this before but it does not work unfortunately.
What I mean here, for some reason Keynote will create some time sync anomaly between audio and video, then when uploading to YouTube, it will reject the file or make awful result.
So far, the only working method I've foudn to export from Keynote to YouTube is to use SEND sub-menu in Keynote. It works fine except I can NOT send 1280x720, it just restricts to 640 x 360 or 480 x 272

Editing Panasonic GH1 1280 x 720 60 frame video

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