Editing ProRes HQ multicam, 3 angles, is laggy/choppy

Hi there,
I'm on a 2013 Mac Pro with 64 GB RAM. I have 3 streams of 1080i29.97 ProRes HQ concert footage that I'm trying to edit in multicam mode and I'm getting lag/choppy playback about 5-10 seconds into playback.
I've tried the various toggle on/off mercury transmit, openCL, audio etc. Nothing works. I'm currently transcoding my footage to DNxHD, as some users have posted that as a workaround.
I know that drive IO is not an issue.
This issue has been asked about at various times earlier, but I was wondering if there has been any progress in actually fixing this bug. If anyone at Adobe would care to chime in, that would be appreciated.
From what I gather, this is a ProRes/QT32server issue, which seems to plague the entire Adobe suite. ProRes is a widely used format for professional acquisition, from cameras to decks and for deliverables. One would expect a company that produces "professional" software to be compatible with established workflows.
Thank you for your time.

Hi Graham,
Graham Hutchins wrote:
Upon further investigation and moving some assets to my RAID 0 drive, it does seem to be a disk IO thing.
Thanks for letting us know.
Graham Hutchins wrote:
What's strange to me is how it will playback relatively well in 7.2.2 and will be completely unusable in 8.2.
That can be confusing. New versions of applications may require higher system requirements. One thing I would look into is your project file. Did you update the project file from 8.1 to 8.2? If so, you might try a fresh project file and media.
Thanks,
Kevin

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