Editing RAW files in PSE11 from Nikon d5200 on PC running Windows 8.1

I am trying to edit several RAW images in PSE 11 on my new PC running Windows 8.1.
When I try to open one of the images from my Nikon d5200, I see a pop up that says I need Camera Raw help documentation.
I assume that this means a download. Looked at the list available & did not find one, HELP!!

Hello Brian,
really appreciate your input!!
thank you so much for responding to my Q. I read your suggestion and downloaded the update, now 7.4,
ASAP. So thanks to you I'm 'back in business' editing my pics w/the RAW interface.
Must remember to look for updates for several other programs from time to time. Also, will turn to the Adobe
community for answers to upcoming difficulties - how to do's................
best regards,
Stan Pearlstein
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