Editing Vector Objects in PDF
When I use the Touch-up Object tool to select a vector element in a PDF and right click to Edit Object the object opens in Illustrator. This is the program I have set in preferences to edit vector objects. The issue I have is when I edit and save the object it shows up in the PDF shifted from its original position (offset to the upper left). How can I get the object to update in the PDF without shifting position?
Yes and No. You have the most up-to-date version of Acrobat 8.1 and
Illustrator, so the bug should have been fixed. I cannot say why it is
not working for you. Of course, the latest version of Acrobat is 9.0,
but I don't think you need to upgrade for the fix. Maybe someone can
chime in. What happens if you create a new file in Illy and create a
pdf, does the problem still happen?
Mike
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How do I prevent the Darker Shade Box (color shift) around Vector Objects when Printing
Sorry in advance for the novelette. I am absolutely mystified and frustrated and would love some help! I've been working on this problem for about 30 hours over the last 4 days to figure out what the heck is happening and cannot find an answer through various forms of research.
Basically, when I print a JPEG, I am getting this area (a box) of darker shaded coloring around my heart and love text. I've tested it a million different ways and am at a loss as to what the problem is ... is it an application problem, a color profile problem between my applications and printer, an improper way that I saved my file, etc.
Here is a photo I took of the image printed out (so it is slightly skewed from camera distortion):
The details:
(1) I create graphic art and sell it online. I save all of my printable art as JPEG files because of my customer base (diy hobbyists that print on their home printers without much knowledge base nor graphic design software).
(2) I use both Adobe Illustrator (AI) and Photoshop Elements 11 (PSE11) to design and save my artwork.
(3) I insert JPEG images into Microsoft Word 2003 documents to "test print" since most of my customers use home printers to print. Since most people have this basic software, it is a good gauge of the kind of print out they might get using the same or similar software.
(4) My PSE11 color profile setting is the default sRGB. I have test printed many times and I get the truest colors with this color profile.
(5) My AI color settings are normally also an sRGB color mode, but on occasion, I use a CMYK color mode if I am creating a larger document that I know the customer will need to take to a professional printer to print out.
(6) I do my home printing (for proofs) on an Epson Stylus Photo 1400 (which has the 6 color ink cartridges).
(7) Until this printing problem occurred on this test print out, I always used the "photo enhance" option when I designate settings for my printer via the Microsoft Word documents.
IMPORTANT: This is when I have the color shift?? or color rendering issues?? and it is the only time. If I use the regular ICM/ICC color profile of sRGB, the printing issue doesn't occur. Instead, I have a solid color background instead of this one with the strips of lighter color on the top and bottom. However, I can't control how the customer prints, so I need to feel confident that whatever color profile setting they use, they will not run into this problem. I even test printed the documents over at FedEx and the darker box/color shift did not occur.
(8) The document in question only has 3 sets of objects: the heart, the solid colored rectangle colored background and the text. All 3 objects are vectors, they are at 100% opacity and there are no "special effects" applied.
(9) The image was entirely created in AI this time and exported as a maximum quality JPEG file, although you will see below that I tried many ways to create and save the file so that I didn't have the color band borders on top/bottom.
(10) I regularly use AI for part of my art, then I drag it to my PSE11 open document and it becomes a Vector Object (it cannot by copying/pasting into a PSE11 document). I also regularly export AI images as PNG files, then insert them into an open PSE11 document. This printing issue has not occurred until recently. Here is an example of a very complex AI image I created, then inserted into PSE11 just to add the background (the Teddy Bear and books are AI vector objects) that were exported as PNG files then inserted into PSE11 to integrate with the background image - I test printed with Photo Enhance and had no printing issues:
So, from the research I have done, it looks like it is a color rendering or color space issue with conflicting color profiles in the same document. I checked my color profile settings and both sRGB and CMYK were set to embed ICC color profiles.
I tried changing AI settings to Preserve Numbers (ignore linked profiles) for CMYK, but that didn't work.
I also checked and made sure that not only the document setup showed the sRGB color profile, but that all the objects within the document also were converted to sRGB as well for consistency. That didn't work.
I tried converting the document to CMYK along with the vector objects. That didn't work.
I tried saving the heart image as a PNG file alone, the "love" text as a PNG file alone, both the heart and text together as a PNG files alone. Once saved as PNG files, I inserted them into an open empty PSE11 document - as I normally do. I then added the background color I wanted. That didn't work - the print still showed the color changes.
I tried dragging each vector object separately and even as a group and got the same color change issue when printing.
I tried "expanding" and "outlining" the text before exporting as JPEG, before exporting as a PNG and before dragging as a vector object into PSE11. Expanding the text did not help the situation.
I tried exporting as Adobe PDF, then opening in PSE11, then resaving as JPEG. That didn't work.
I tried flattening transparency (even though there is no transparency in the AI file). That didn't work.
I tried rasterizing the image. That didn't work.
Thinking that the file might be corrupt, I started from scratch and redesigned the same heart and love text. Unfortunately, I had the same problem as before. At this point, my AI started becoming buggy and would not open new files. It happened repeatedly and I decided it was best to uninstall and reinstall AI (and maybe that would fix the problem).
I created just the heart in AI, then inserted it into an open PSE11 document (both after exporting as PNG and also by dragging as Vector Object from AI). It seemed to work. I could both drag the vector into PSE11 from AI and export from AI as a PNG, then insert into open PSE11 document with a background color - and it printed a solid background.
So, I thought that reinstalling and setting back to defaults worked. But, then I added the love text around the heart and tried exporting as JPEG files and the same problem continued to recur. Whether I dragged as a Vector object into PSE11 (the heart object and love text separately and also another time with the vector objects dragged as a group) or saved them as PNG files and inserted into PSE11 - I got the different shades of color on what should be a solid background. I even tried saving the PSE11 as a PSD file first, then resaving as JPEG and I tried saving as PNG and printing and this didn't help solve the problem.
I really think it is some color conflict issue but I can't figure it out. I am definitely not very knowledgeable about color profiles and how to sync all my devices, however, as I mentioned, this was not an issue until recently (and I think??? I recall changing the CMYK setting from Preserve Numbers to embed color profile a month or so ago - however, it should have been solved when AI went back to its defaults upon reinstall).
The reason I believe it is a color rendering/color space issue is because I could see the color output when I saved the JPEG with CMYK color profile versus sRGB color profile and the sRGB colors were much richer, not surprisingly. The top and bottom colors matched the sRGB printout and the middle darker box section matched the CMYK printout.
I am sure it is something fundamental or simple and I am completely overlooking it. I wish it were just a transparency issue, because people know how to fix or do workarounds for it. But, there are no vector objects with any transparency ...
If I missed some detail, I apologize. Any help would be a dream come true at this point! lol
Thank you!Okay, I got motivated to try again. From doing a bit more research on troubleshooting AI printing problems, the Adobe article talks about print drivers. It was advised to uninstall and reinstall the print driver if the printing issue persists. So, I did. Unfortunately, I still had the same result after reinstalling and trying a test print! Ugh.
So, as Jacob said upfront, I seem to have an overactive print driver that is trying too hard (and it is a non-postscript printer which I realize is part of the problem).
There are so many variables in my situation as to how I create art and save/export art. I sometimes work solely in AI, sometimes solely in PSE and sometimes I use both programs to create. Consequently, I will:
(1) export directly from AI as JPEG if I am not adding PSE11 artwork.
(2) export directly from AI as PNG if I plan on inserting that image into PSE11 to add to artwork I have created in PSE11.
(3) drag vector objects as a Smart Objects directly from AI to PSE11 to add to artwork I am creating in PSE11 if I know I will playing with the vector object and resizing in PSE11.
So, I did a test print using scenario 2, where I inserted the heart and love text PNG (AI created vector object) into an old PSE11 document. This old document already had a vector object from AI with a solid background and I knew it printed correctly. So, after inserting this new PNG from AI into this old document, it printed correctly using the photo enhance mode.
However, I haven't had a chance to actually create new art in the older AI files (that I know print properly), resave as something else and try another test print (either by exporting as JPEG and printing in Word or by exporting as PNG file and inserting into PSE11 document, then saving as JPEG and printing in Word).
After testing the different possibilities of ICM settings within my printer, I found that the JPEG images printed out with the truest colors and best quality if I simply selected "no color management" from the printer. Shocker, huh? lol
MY SOLUTION: So, what I think I will simply do is add an instruction sheet with the printables I sell, explaining that the color profile setting should never be handled by the printer so make sure to turn off color management by printer (and if they feel they must use the printer for color management, make sure the setting is sRGB since I embed that color profile in my JPEG's).
Edited to add: Since my issue was never about how I could print a successful image (I knew I could simply change the color profile settings), but rather about how to make sure that customers would get consistent and high quality print outputs of my digital images, this seems like the best approach.
I don't think I will every really know exactly why I am now getting color shifts in the "photo enhance" mode when I did not have this problem a couple months ago - applying the same methods of creating artwork. I was concerned that I was saving/exporting using incorrect or mismatched color settings or something of that nature. However, since I went through the process of making my color spaces the same for everything, and I still have issue, clearly that is not the culprit. The only thing I can do to solve the problem and it is a straightforward solution anyway -> is to educate the buyer on how to print successfully (don't use photo enhance! ha ha).
Thanks again to everyone who chimed in and offered advice! -
Illustrator to Photoshop Smart Vector Object
After pasting a vector object into a PS file as a smart object, I thought I could double click to re-edit in Ilustrator.
It will only open as a PDF in PS. Am I missing something basic here or do I need to set a preference differently?
I am new to Ill, please help if you can.
Windows 7, CS5 Ill & PS.
Thanks for any help.
DThank you! The simple and correct answer. This is working for me now.
I am on Win7 so i right clicked on an Ill file and chose always use this program in the advanced section. It didn't show PDF as a default but Ill but after I have done this it is working as expected.
I am again a happy camper!
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Psd files not updating edited smart objects (PS CC as of 6/3/14)
I created a master PSD file and added four different TIF files as 'linked' (not embedded) Smart Objects. If I edit these linked files (they open when double-clicked, or 'Edit Contents') make changes and then save & close the edited master TIF files, the main PSD file does not reflect the edited changes. If I double click the Smart Object, it opens and shows my edits, but to save & close still does not update the master PSD file. I do this all the time without issue, so I am perplexed. Even if I right-click the smart object and select "Update All Modified Content" nothing changes. Closing the file, restarting Photoshop- nothing updates the main PSD file with the changes to the edited TIF files... EXCEPT if I 'replace contents' with the same file: then it updates the PSD.
Any ideas?I was actually just working in Illlustrator. Selecting the vector object and then select PS and Paste. I'm then asked if I want this to be a smart object. I select yes and it adds the object as a smart object layer. If I double click the layer it opens it in Illustrator, I make a change, save it and close it. Then back to PS and the smart object doesn't update.
I haven't used Place Embedded or Place Linked. I don't understand what those functions do. It's just not how I'm use to working.
Actually I have a large PSD doc. Inside it is a group of objects that I have turned into a Smart object. Inside that (by double clicking) is an AI file that is also a smart object. When I open that up to make a change it won't update once I save and close.
I have tried a coulpe of test with placed Linked and Embedded objects and I can't get those to work either. So what ever the change was. So far not really liking it. -
I run mysql query using Java, and the results of it are put in a vector object. Due to the vector object is made by 1 element (it's sure because I wrote the database) I'd like to take it and put it in a string variable, but Java returns me a lot of exceptions; here is the code:
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record = new String[colonne];
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public String autentica(String query){
String s = (String) db.eseguiQuery(query).get(0);
System.out.println(s);
return s;
}...Please help me!1. You're not calling ResultSet.next() to move the result set onto the first row of results.
2. (Edit) Deleted because you were in fact closing your objects, though you should still use a finally block to make absolutely certain.
3. The exceptions tell you what the problem is - when you post a question please include these.
Edited by: dcminter on 06-Aug-2008 17:04 -
Reducing amount of discrete vector objects [Acr 8]
Any way to simplify vector objects in a PDF file?
I have a page with complex maps. This PDF is placed in InDesign, scaled, and then I export to create a new PDF. Either at the source (linked PDF) or the final PDF, I'd like to simplify the vector map images, presumably by rasterizing to 72 ppi.
Any way to do this in Acrobat?
Thanks in advance,
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Vector objects are displayed incorrectly
Hi!
I am using Flash CS6. I need to draw a small vector icons (about 14x14).
Simple example: I draw a rounded rectangle with corner radius "2". Here is a resulting image from Flash (14x14, 100% scale):
As you can see, top corners are not drawed correctly, and bottom corners looks like radius is "1", not "2".
And here is what I expect (from Photoshop):
The same thing happens after importing icon from Illustrator to Flash as editable path - icon is distorted. But when I impoting it as bitmap - it looks exactly the same as in Illustrator. Only vector shapes showing incorrectly.
How can I fix it?Neither of those appear to be vector objects as evidenced by the presence of pixels. I don't understand why you label them as 14x14 at 100%. If anything they are signicantly magnified. Below is a 14x14 vector rectangle with a corner rounding of 2 shown at 800% drawn in Flash CS3.
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Bought a new Canon MG7540 printer to replace the old HP A618. When printing vector objects from Illustrator, they look like graphics from dandy (8 bits) ... no smooth, all cubes ... if do raster than print perfectly. Who knows how to treat it? No well to rasterize vector before each printing. OS - MacOs 10.10.
Have you read the User's Guide for that printer? Odds are you will get reasonable prints. However, it is a photographic printer. That said, it should print excellent quality photographic files. To get smooth lines in Illustrator, try Preferences > Use Anti-Aliased Artwork. That will smoothen the output. If, for some reason, that does not work, try Print > Save As PDF > open PDF in Reader and print from there. Check the User's Guide for media sizes available for your particular printer. Setup your artboard to the size page you want the image to print on. Use View > Show Page Tiling ( to see where the page's printable area lies. Align the page with the artboard using the Page tool.
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Disapearing objects in PDF Writer 9
hi,
i'm trying to edit a document in PDF Writer 9 after producingit on PDF format.
during editing i notice that some graph objects just disapear , leaving only their border .
does anyone have a clue on whats wrong? is it a system bug ?
is there somethingi can do to avoid it ?
will it not happend in earlyer versions ?
thanksVery likely you do not have "View Large Images" selected in the preferences.
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Why do vector objects use a different GUI to set colours?
While teaching Photoshop in a class of mine, I noticed that in CS6 vector objects's colours remain unaffected by the main colour controls, and we have to switch to the object selection tool to display the colour controls in the properties bar.
Now, this feels very, very disjointed - why would one introduce such a disconnect in the overall user interface? Why not just use the ordinary colour controls? I mean, trying to pick up the colour from a bitmap layer for a vector object takes five steps now: select object with object selection tool, click on the fill button in the properties bar, click on the colour picker, then we can pick up a colour from the image, anc finally click to confirm. And the colour change only gets applied after clicking "okay". No realtime feedback. Have to repeat the last three steps again and again to test for different colours.
Wow. Just... Wow. :-(
The Colour swatch palette does not work either with vector objects. Nor the eye dropper tool! Just plain silly, if you ask me.
Quite a bad workflow, or am I missing something here?
I compare this to Photoline, where the overall colour controls govern all types of objects, including vector layers and bitmap layers the same way, and with instant feedback. Photoshop CS6's colour picking workflow for vector objects looks extremely convoluted compared.
Has this workflow been improved at all in Photoshop CC?@ JJMack: I used Photoshop in a professional manner since version 3, so I am sort of privy to its overall development throughout the years. ;-)
My intention is not to start a comparison between Photoline and Photoshop - both have their caveats and benefits. I stopped using Photoshop 9 months ago and switched to Photoline, and on overall, I much prefer PL's workflow now for image editing and compositing. (Comparing Elements with PL is not really a fair fight - PL's feature set, aside from the 3d, scripting, and video components, is 95% feature identical with Photoshop).
The main reason I still have Photoshop in my professional life is not due to missing features in the alternatives I now use compared to Photoshop (as a matter of fact the combined power of the alternatives are superior in terms of provided features), but merely because the students I teach are taught the "industry standard", and I keep up knowledge-wise.
Anyway, I am not expecting Photoshop to encompass the same functionality as Illustrator, nor do I want to compare Photoline's vector drawing tools to a dedicated vector illustration package. I am, however, experienced enough as a user (and a UX designer myself) to identify some very odd fragmented user interface behaviours in software.
The new vector shapes are a very welcome recent addition in PH, though I question the strange disconnected implementation. -
Edit Smart Object in Lightroom instead of ACR
Hi,
I recently aquired both photoshop CS5 and lightroom 3. I'm still trying to get down the best workflow between the two programs. What I'd like to do is to use lightroom as my only raw converter and use photoshop to make the final pixel edits. I've been playing around with smart objects and have noticed that once you open a raw file from lightroom as a smart object in photoshop, it appears your stuck in photoshop. If you want to open the smart object and make alterations it opens in adobe camera raw in photoshop. Is there a way to re-open the smart object back in lightroom instead of in ACR?
Thanks!If I interpret you correctly, I think what you want is to use PS as a photo editor and retain the image - with the PS-edits - as a RAW-file.
And that is not possible.
You say "that there must be a way to synchronize those instructions".
No, there is no way, even though LR and PS use ACR - and it is the same ACR for both (BTW: ACR means Adobe Camera Raw).
You cannot synchronize the instructions (= edits) because LR writes / saves them in the LR-Catalog, whereas PS (as a pixel-based editor) cannot write into the LR-Catalog (nor can it read the LR catalog).
PS also cannot write XMP-files (alyhough Adobe Bridge can). PS is a pixel-based editor and that means that Adobe can write / save its edits only as a PDF (TIFF, etc)-file.
When you open a RAW-image in PS with previous edits in LR), the image is displayed in PS with the LR-edits. When you then make further edits in PS you have to save those edits as a PSD (TIFF, etc.). If you don't and close the file the PS-edits will be gone and lost.
You say "When you open a Smart Object up in ACR from Photoshop, where does Photoshop keep the instructions/edits?".
I don't know, presumably in RAM or on the PS scratch-disk. But these instructions/edits are not accessible and if you close the file without saving the image they will be lost. And if you save the image you will have a PSD (or TIFF, etc.)
You write: "This way you could "re-edit" the original raw file in Lightroom and then apply those changes to wherever Photoshop keeps the instructions of how to interpret the Smart Object." Yeah, it would be nice but it isn't possible. Maybe Adobe picks your idea and in the future who knows ...
But right now: Nope.
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How do I edit photos on my pdf? it only lets me edit the text
how do I edit photos on my pdf? it only lets me edit the text
Hi Caryn,
Actually Creative Cloud is not my speciality - but I would recommend posting your specific questions to that forum:
http://forums.adobe.com/community/creative_cloud
I'm sure our community members would have a better idea if it is right for your project!
Kind regards, Stacy -
When I try to paste an CCI file into a PSD, I get this message… Could not complete the Paste command because the ICC profile is invalid.
I need the layer to be an editable smart object! What's the solution?
RonI received the file from my client. However, last week I had no trouble pasting the same file into a PSD file, as a smart object.
The color file is a label mechanical, which I place into a PSD file of the product. These are used for print ads and web graphics. The color is very critical and has worked really well for the last 4 years.
I have used the default color settings in Creative Suite and its been working fine. They are in synch and, I have no idea how to re-assign the color profile. I’m a graphic Designer, color correction is not something I would do normally.
Ron -
I cannot edit text in a PDF created from scanning
I am using Adobe XI, and I have created a PDF by scanning a document.
When I do click on a paragraph to edit text, all the page appears selected, it seems to be an image. At that moment a message pops up saying: this page has not editable text or digitalized content. The editing tools are disabled, so I cannot edit text.
If I do export a page to Excel or Word, I can edit text there, although there are some kind of data that is not converted properly (even when I have executed OCR).
I have edited preferences, but I am not sure if I did it correctly.
ThanksI am using Acrobat XI Pro on PC.
Of course, I have done all the steps you mention, but I wanted someone to confirm me if these setting values are correct in order to obtain the best results. I repeat the paragraph of my previous discussion that I want to clarify, just in case some of you can help me, mainly about optimization
I digitalized the document from the scanner. This scanner is installed in the net, so I personalized the settings in Acrobat and I chose memory mode instead of native mode.
Mode color: black on white
Resolution: 600 ppp
As you say in your mail, I understand I should choose ClearScan OCR not searchable just at this moment.
Well, and what about the options of optimization?, JBIG2 (without lost)?, 4 CCITT?
And filters?, I have: activated, low, activated, medium
Are these values congruous or compatible?
Thank you
De: Phillip Jones [email protected]
Enviado el: martes, 27 de noviembre de 2012 18:24
Para: Suárez Suárez, Manuela
Asunto: I cannot edit text in a PDF created from scanning
Re: I cannot edit text in a PDF created from scanning
created by Phillip Jones<http://forums.adobe.com/people/PhillipMJones> in Creating, Editing & Exporting PDFs - View the full discussion<http://forums.adobe.com/message/4877588#4877588
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