EFI firmware updated. Now fans on full all the time.

I updated the EFI firmware since Apple suggested it.
I have done the troubleshooting (turn off and unhook all the cables {for a week!}, open it up and reset the button) and have had no luck.
I called Apple and of course since I'm just out of warranty, I have to pay to have them tell me the same troubleshooting thing again.
I wish I could go back to the 'bad' firmware I had before, but cannot.
<Edited by Moderator>

Glad it works now. Maybe firmware updates should be done with system stripped down, some voodoo there.
I had and saw a lot of problems with 10.5.1 and would never touch it, very flaky and unstable with some things and needed a dose of Disk Warrior even. I wouldn't even give it the dignity of calling it beta let alone release candidate, I'd go all the way back to 10.4.11. But still not certified for 10.5.4+ seems odd (10.5.4 is what the current retail DVD carries).

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Welcome back to the HP Forums!
I understand after having your notebook services the fan constantly runs and is getting warm.
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Let me know if either of these help.
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