EIST Problem P35 Neo Q6600

Hi all.
I have overclocked my Q6600 (G0) to 3.28GHz (411 FSB x8 Multiplier) on MSI P35 Neo (BIOS v1.10/1.A). Problem is that if I enable EIST in BIOS and set the CPU multiplier at 8x the multiplier will not remain at 8x when booting. It will try to boot with 9x and as a result will hang/freeze the computer during boot. Only way to stop it from going higher than 8x is to disable EIST. I would have kept EIST disabled if MSI motherboards didn't have problem of feeding a lot more vcore when CPU is idle. CPU VID is 1.28v and in BIOS I have set it at 1.33. At idle it hovers around 1.35v +/- 0.01 and under load it drops to 1.31 +/- 0.01. At 3.33GHz (370 FSB x9 Multiplier) EIST works as intended but I have to set RAM at 740MHz (at next mem divider it goes to 888MHz unstable).
My computer specs are:
CPU: Intel C2Q Q6600 G0
MB: MSI P35-Neo
RAM: Corsair XMS 2 3GB DDR2 800MHz (2GB+1GB)
PSU: Corsair HX620
VGA: HIS Radeon HD4870 1GB
HDD: Seagate 500GB SATAII ST3500418AS
And other normal stuff.
Does some one know of a method to enable EIST successfully at 8x multiplier or some BIOS for MSI P35 Neo that fixes this problem? Any help will be greatly appreciated.
Best Regards

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I am guessing you have your Q6600 at 400x9?
No, I have an E6600.
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Your signature says EIST enabled...
Yes, but what does that have to do with your system running @x8? If I wanted to make my system operate at a lower multiplier, I would have to disable EIST as well.
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At idle it hovers around 1.35v +/- 0.01 and under load it drops to 1.31 +/- 0.01.
The idea that the voltage has to stay put at the same level when the system is IDLE and under full load is somewhat of a misconception. Voltage Droops are not necessarely caused by poor power regulation but have to do (at least in the first degree) with the Intel Processor Power Delivery Design
Guidelines and Specifications.
Please have a look here:
http://www.thetechrepository.com/showthread.php?t=126
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Load line droop (or Vdroop) is an inherent part of any Intel power delivery design. A current proportional to the average current of all active channels flows through load line regulation resistor RFB. The resulting voltage drop across RFB is proportional to the output current, effectively creating an output voltage droop with a steady-state value. Equation 2 dictates the value for RFB that should be choosen to satisfy the Intel VRD specification (the source of RLL) based on a) the number of power delivery phases (N) and b) the equivalent series resistance (ESR) of the inductor used, effectively known as DCR.
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I only want to enable EIST so that CPU vcore voltage doesn't go higher than 1.33v
What happens if you adjust the voltage downward somewhat? Is the 1.33V setting really the lowest possible setting for your current clock speed?

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I bought an e8500 (eo stepping) and the 9.5 multiplier option is unavailable in the bios of my board. I am running bios 1.9 and neither it nor 1.1a solved this problem. When I tried bios 1.8 , the board refused to boot until I swapped back to another chip.
I have the same problem with a P35 Neo-F (7360) whith a e8500 Rev.E0.
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P.S. I'm sorry for my little english!

Update your BIOS to the latest Version .
>>Use the MSI HQ Forum USB flasher<<

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Allright you probaply are familiar with this problem.
When Im trying to change multipler on my motherboard settings it says that Speed Step haves to be disabled.
I have latest BIOS on my motherboard and in case of somebody suspecting OC albility of MSI p35 Neo; I had hit it to 400 FSB and it run without problems.
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First thing I can not put less voltage that the cpu brings default, second what happens next if bios setting 1.3250 vcore for Quad, once in both windows everest, cpuz, like others programs tell me that this placed on 1.40 vcore which is excessive for the speed at which the quad, this is so in this mobo? Their story that was installed version 1.20 bios which handled vcore%, the upgrade to version 1.40 and is now handled in decimals (numbers) vcore, but still the problem
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You can slap 1.6v in that CPU and temps won't rise that much.
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but I get only 8x 333mhz = 2,66ghz
If you enable EIST in BIOS, the multiplier should be automatically set to x8.5. As far as I know, this bug only exists if EIST is disabled in BIOS. In any case, the problem should be fixed once you flash the latest A7360IMS.1A0 release for your board. Just make sure that your system is entirely stable before you think about flashing.
http://download1.msi.com/files/downloads/bos_exe/7360v1A.zip
>>Use the MSI HQ Forum USB flasher<<
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a cheap-ass PSU with 450W and 12V/18A, 5V/14A, 3,3V/18A
Invest in a better PSU as well. Yours does not look very convincing (for comparison: a Corsair VX450 PSU with the same overall wattage can deliver 33A@12V, 20@5V and 20A@3,3V ).
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(ddr2 @ 667mhz)
How come your memory is running @DDR2-667? Can you post a screenshot of the CPU-Z SPD view for each of your modules?
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2x Corsair Twin2X 1024MB DDR2 800Mhz + 1x Kingston HyperX 2048MB 800MHZ DDR2 memory
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** PROBLEM SOLVED - Tech support told we that if there was any way to update the BIOS to version 1.3 then I should do that. I found a way and after that everything have been running smoothly.
I would like to thank everyone that helped me in here and hope that my experience and the solution might come in handy to someone else. **
**This thread have been updated with more information and an alteration of the story as my experience with the board/BIOS grew larger, and some information was given to me by at kind person in this thread**
Hello everyone.
Some days ago I got some new hardware and put it all together but I ran into a big problem.
Specs of the new machine:
Case: Arctic Cooling T2 Pro, Miditower, 500W
Psu name: AX-500F, specs:
+12v: 14 A (15 A peak)
+12v2: 16 A (19 A peak)
+5v: 25 A
+2.3v: 30 A
-12v: 0.5 A
+5vSB: 2.0 A (3.0 A peak)
This information is a direct quote from Artic Cooling's homepage:
Power Supply
The AX-500F is a power supply optimized for high end PC's and complies with Intel's ATX12V version 2.0. The continuous output power fulfils gaming system requirements based on multiple VGA boards.
The AX-500F was tested with the following configurations:
AMD Athlon FX-62 CPU
2 GB Ram
2x ATI X1950 XTX (Cross Fire)
Intel Core 2 Extreme CPU
2 GB Ram
2x NVIDIA 7950 Gx2
I also did try booting with a more powerful PSU but still no luck, and from what I can see then this one should be powerful enough
Mobo: MSI P35-NEO-Combo-F, Intel P35, Ver. 1.0, BIOS ver. 1.2
CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo E6750, BOX
Ram: Corsair TWIN2X2048-6400C4, 2x1024MB 2.1v
Graphics card: Inno3D GeForce 8800GTS, 320MB, PCI-E
CD-rom: Lite-On DVD/CD
HDD: Western Digital Raptor 74GB
OS: Windows XP 32bit
When I turned it on for the first time nothing happend, no picture no error sounds although I could see and hear that the computer was on. I turned it off and then on again, nothing, I turned it off and then on again and something happend.
I got a red text message saying that my overclocking attempt was unsuccessful, which I found pretty odd cause this was the first time the computer was on. I have now been informed that it's a fail safe build into the BIOS to prevent a melt down if you overclock it too hard, which is kinda smart. I then had the option to go into the BIOS, so I looked at every setting to see if things were OK and if it was somehow overclocked or had some wrong settings.. Everything looked and still looks alright when I save and exit. When I do save and exit, be it with the settings I think is okay, the fail safe or optimized settings then the screen just goes black.
So now for the 'clearing the CMOS' part When I reset the CMOS with the jumper I can get further than the error message about overclocking. I get two options:
1. To enter BIOS setup to configure the bios.
2. To automatically load some default settings and continue booting.
First I tried option 1, after doing a save and exit the screen went black again, got the overclocking message and had to clear the CMOS one more time.
Then I choose option 2, windows started to load, I got into safe mode and windows started to find all the new hardware and so on. When that was done I was kinda forced to reboot, screen went back and yes you guessed it... I had to clear the CMOS and choose options 2. I got as far as getting into windows and installed some of the stuff from the CD-rom's that came with the motherboard, again I was doomed to reboot and clear the CMOS. Once again option 2 needed to be selected to get the system up and running, and I got as far as to the "Want to activate windows" option, and couldn't do that cause the network card was not installed so I had no internet connectivity. Apparently if windows detect too much hardware being replaced then the activation thing pops up, and I later learned that I can't activate my windows anymore cause I used my activation quota and I have to get a new key
What I learned from my brief time in windows normal mode:
Everything seemed to work nicely, and freaking fast too....swiiing!
2gb of ram was detected, running dual channel and at the desired voltage.
The CPU was running at normal speed and voltage.
All in all everything seemed normal until I rebooted.
The only thing I can conclude is that something goes horribly wrong when I clear the CMOS, load some default settings and then reboot. I have seen that I am able to get into the system with my current hardware, but only after a CMOS clear, so what the heck is wrong, what goes wrong after the reboot?
And this is as far as I can get with my own knowledge of computers :(
So now I hope to go that I can get some help from some of you guys, any thoughts on this or anyone know of such a problem and maybe know a solution?
If I missed some information you guys need to solve this puzzle then just ask.
On a side note, if I somehow get the chance to flash my BIOS to version 1.3 in hope that if will solve my problem, then will it erase my chances to send it in for RMA and get a new board? Do I break any rules by doing that?
Best Regards
Mads, Denmark

Quote from: Maesus on 24-August-07, 23:29:25
ok, when you turn it off and on and off and on, the BIOS will think it's an overclocking failure event, and hence display the overclock error message.
usually this is due to the memory settings was set incorrectly (by the BIOS itself). You may need to manually change the memory settings and see if that helps. And, please make sure that your BIOS can support FSB1333 processor like E6750 out of the box. If not, try flashing to the latest BIOS.
Hello and thanks for the quick anwser.
I did check if memory/cpu settings were okay and the seem to be on the right defaut setting. I save and exit and the screen just goes black. I forgot to add the motherboard and BIOS versions but they are there now: Mobo: MSI P35-NEO-Combo-F, Intel P35, Ver. 1.0, BIOS ver. 1.2
I don't see how I will be able to flash the bios when I can't get into windows and do it, and there is no way else for me to do it. If it was the case that the BIOS didn't support FSB1333, then I would never have gotten as far as getting into windows and getting the activation message would I?

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Default problems with msi p35 neo 2
pc works fine when using windows and the net and emails
only when using 3d mark or games do i ever get problems
just help in getting the hole story 6 months ago got a msi neo2 install all my old components core 2 duo 4 gig ram form a diffrent board works fine but never used it playing games just used for the net and email shoping seamed to work fine but
tryed playing a game 2 months later command and conquer 3 pc was some times freeze or graphics artefacts on screen assumed vga card faulty got another graphics card geforce 8600gts installed still the same in the last month got round to playing with the pc again and installed new g7 780 watt power supply and ati hd 4870 graphics card
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******* xms2 2x2 gb ddr2 part no cm2x2048 6400c4dmx
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memory voltage 2.1
Make sure that the memory timings are not set to 4-4-4-x but that they are set to the defaults values (5-5-5-x). Also ensure, that the memory clock speed is not set to anything higher than 400 MHz (=DDR2-800). The voltage at these settings should not need to exceed 1.95V. So please lower it accordingly. In case the freezes still occure, please run memtest86+ to check your memory for errors.
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msi dual core center
Please get rid of that tool for all further tests. Uninstall it completely from your system as it is known to cause crashes and freezes on its own terms when running.

P35 Neo Mainboard Driver Disk Problem

Hi All,
I’m in the process of building my first PC and have a problem with the Windows XP Driver Disk that is supplied with the P35 Neo mainboard I am using. I have just installed windows xp without any problems. I am now trying to install the mainboard drivers. There seems to be a problem with the driver cd. My computer is unable to read the cd. I have also tried the cd in a friend’s pc without any success.
I would really appreciate it if someone were able to point me in the right direction for all of the drivers I will need to install. If you could list all of the drivers that I will need it would be much appreciated!
Thanks in advance!
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Multiple problems with P35 Neo Combo-F based system

Friend of mine, after returning from a trip, complained that he couldn't power up his computer. After analysis it was found that his (no-name) PSU was dead. Unfortunately replacing the PSU was not end to the problems. Here are the configuration details:
Mobo: MSI P35 Neo Combo-F v1.0 with v1.7 BIOS
CPU: Intel Celeron 420
RAM: single Transcend JM800QLJ-1G 1GB DDR2-800 module
Video Card: Gigabyte nVidia GV-NX84G256H
HDD: 1xMaxtor STM3250310AS DiamondMax 21 SATA
OS: Microsoft Windows XP SP3
PSU: LC-Power LC7380 PowerSilent Taurus 380W (3,3V: 20A, 5V: 20A, 12V1: 14A, 12V2: 8A)
Other: Pioneer DVD-RW DVR-212D SATA
Problem(s) description:
When powering up, system turns on for a second or two, then like it powers down for roughly the same time, and then turns itself on again and then boots. Not sure if this is double/fake boot "feature", but for single system power up I don't like having HDD powered up twice. This happens for every power up. BIOS has been upgraded to latest 1.7 using MSI Windows utility, after update system has been turned off, power cord removed, BIOS jumper set to clear for couple of minutes, then returned to normal position, returned power, started up the system, loaded optimized defaults, in power management setup's wake up event setup I have disabled "resume by pci device" and "resume by pci-e device" options which were only by default enabled "resume by ..." items.
System is very unresponsive, even after clean install with only motherboard drivers installed (Intel INF). I've checked with Sysinternals Process Explorer, Deferred Procedure Calls process is occupying most (50% - 70%) of the CPU, making "System" (and not "System Idle Process") occupying CPU 100%. I've checked with Spybot 1.6.2 and with Kaspersky AV 2010, there is no malware on the system. Odd thing is that while I'm running latest Microsoft Malicious Software Removal Tool "System" process falls down to 3% of CPU load and system becomes responsive more than ever.
When restarting system, after clean install and before installing any drivers, system would freeze at "Windows is shutting down" screen. Once I install Intel inf motherboard drivers, since then system kind of restarts, screen goes black, but it doesn't boot up again - I have to do a hardware reset.
When shutting down the system, similarly to restart scenario, system kind of shuts down, I can hear HDD is stopped, but system power LED remains on, and both CPU and PSU fans remain on.
Not sure if it is related but I'll mention it anyway, even though I can browse internet and download files with no problem, Windows update and Kaspersky Antivirus 2010 updates barely move from 0% after hours and hours of running (Kaspersky never moves off of the 0%, while Windows Update takes ages to get additional percent of a single ~900KB update)
I've tried replacing that single Transcend memory stick with single Kingston KVR800D2N5/2G DDR2 stick, and replacing graphics card with MSI's R4350-D512H, but in vain. I've also tried putting in 2 Kingston DDR2 sticks, but then system wouldn't boot at all. I've also tried replacing PSU with LC-Power's LC-6550 V2.0 (+3,3V: 30A, +5V: 28A, +12V1: 14A, +12V1: 14A) but it didn't solve anything.
I'm running out of options, any advice would be welcome.
Thanks in advance!
Regards,
Stevo.

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When powering up, system turns on for a second or two, then like it powers down for roughly the same time, and then turns itself on again and then boots.
This is normal behaviour. Nothing to worry about:
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I don't like having HDD powered up twice.
Your HDD is going to be just fine. Todays hard drives are usually built to be able to take 50'000 power-on-Cycles. If you turn on your system once a day, it will take about 68.5 years until you reach that number with that double-boot behaviour. When you power on your system 8 times a day, you will still have to do that for about 8.5 years (each day) until you reach 50'000. That means if your hard drives breaks within the next 5 years (warranty period), it is highly unlikely that this has anything to do with the double-boot behaviour.
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# System is very unresponsive, even after clean install with only motherboard drivers installed (Intel INF). I've checked with Sysinternals Process Explorer, Deferred Procedure Calls process is occupying most (50% - 70%) of the CPU, making "System" (and not "System Idle Process") occupying CPU 100%. I've checked with Spybot 1.6.2 and with Kaspersky AV 2010, there is no malware on the system. Odd thing is that while I'm running latest Microsoft Malicious Software Removal Tool "System" process falls down to 3% of CPU load and system becomes responsive more than ever.
# When restarting system, after clean install and before installing any drivers, system would freeze at "Windows is shutting down" screen. Once I install Intel inf motherboard drivers, since then system kind of restarts, screen goes black, but it doesn't boot up again - I have to do a hardware reset.
# When shutting down the system, similarly to restart scenario, system kind of shuts down, I can hear HDD is stopped, but system power LED remains on, and both CPU and PSU fans remain on.
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OS: Microsoft Windows XP SP3
Did your install CD already include SP3?
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Not sure if it is related but I'll mention it anyway, even though I can browse internet and download files with no problem, Windows update and Kaspersky Antivirus 2010 updates barely move from 0% after hours and hours of running (Kaspersky never moves off of the 0%, while Windows Update takes ages to get additional percent of a single ~900KB update)
This is another indication that your problems is Windows related. There is something wrong with your OS installation. You are talking about a clean OS Installation with no drivers but AV Software and Anti-Spyware stuff installed. This does not sound very healthy.
My suggestion would be to clear CMOS with main A/C power cable removed from PSU, load "Optimized Defaults" in BIOS after that, repartition and format your hard drive from Windows Setup and reinstall Windows XP SP3. When you done, start with installing the latest Intel Chipset drivers (nothing else before that) and then restart your system right after the installation is done. Then install all the other drivers step by step and see if that changes anything.

P35 Neo Combo crash problem

Hi all,
Recently my computer has started to crash with a BSOD (Stop 0x00000124), it happens almost every day but I haven't been able to reproduce the crash, it seems to occur completely randomly. It even crashed when I was away for a day and didn't use the computer - I left it running to see if the crash would happen without me running any programs.
System:
Mainboard: MSI P35 Neo Combo, Bios version 1.7
CPU: Intel Core2 E6750
Memory: 2x2GB DDR2 800MHz
3 hard drives
Graphics: Radeon 4850
Sound Blaster X-Fi Fatality Pro
I am running Windows 7 Ultimate trial (64 bit), however the same crash happened under Vista Home Premium (64bit) so everything including the error code seems to point to a hardware error.
- disk checks return no errors
- memtest86 returns no errors
Not sure what to try, googling the problem leads me to believe the problem is with the mainboard. I'd like to know if there's something I could try before replacing the board. I have never overclocked anything on this system, mainboard and CPU are about three years old, memory about two, graphics card a year, hard disks 0-3 years. Before this problem happened everything was stable.
Some more info I can think of below. Any ideas/suggestions/assistance welcomed. Thank you!
Mainboard info:
CPU info:
Crash info from BlueScreenView:
Crash List
Created by using BlueScreenView
Dump File      Crash Time      Bug Check Code    Parameter 1      Parameter 2      Parameter 3      Parameter 4    Caused By Driver    Caused By Address    File Description
070110-25546-01.dmp   1.7.2010 15:25:17       0x00000124   00000000`00000000   fffffa80`04b7f038   00000000`b2000018   00000000`06000e0f   hal.dll   hal.dll+12903
070110-25171-01.dmp   1.7.2010 0:25:05       0x00000124   00000000`00000000   fffffa80`04b90038   00000000`b2000040   00000000`00000800   hal.dll   hal.dll+12903
063010-24921-01.dmp   30.6.2010 10:59:54       0x00000124   00000000`00000000   fffffa80`04b64038   00000000`00000000   00000000`00000000   ntoskrnl.exe   ntoskrnl.exe+4a5f3c   NT Kernel & System
062910-25765-01.dmp   29.6.2010 20:21:40       0x00000124   00000000`00000000   fffffa80`04b96038   00000000`b2000040   00000000`00000800   hal.dll   hal.dll+12903
062710-29781-01.dmp   27.6.2010 15:44:03       0x00000124   00000000`00000000   fffffa80`04b6e038   00000000`b2000040   00000000`00000800   hal.dll   hal.dll+12903
062610-134281-01.dmp   26.6.2010 18:51:01       0x00000124   00000000`00000000   fffffa80`04bad038   00000000`b2000040   00000000`00000800   hal.dll   hal.dll+12903
062610-32218-01.dmp   26.6.2010 14:31:57       0x00000124   00000000`00000000   fffffa80`04b62038   00000000`00000000   00000000`00000000   ntoskrnl.exe   ntoskrnl.exe+4a5f3c   NT Kernel & System

What I have now is 2x1GB and 2x2GB PC6400, all are A-Data. There was a crash with one of the 2GB sticks, trying the other now.
I might get DDR3 as replacement, as I'll be buying a new system towards the end of the year - my current board supports DDR3 as well and then I could use the memory in the new system. Or I'll just run with 3GB and no dual channel for the time being (the board has 2xDDR2 and 2xDDR3 slots, so can't use more than two sticks).
It's just odd that memory checks don't report any errors, and the system only crashes every 24 hours or so.

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