ELECTRONIC DRUM MIDI PROBLEM!

we really want the drummer to be able to control his sound via his interface, which is part of the elec set. right now, only i control the sounds via garageband. how can i override this so that he can control the fx?
thanks!

If you are using the drum module's audio outs, he should have control over all his module's parameters.
GB's parameters aren't transferable. The best I can offer is one of MyMac's earlier suggestions about trying an AU plug in called MidiO to send Midi data out to the drum machine.
I'm not familiar enough with Midi to help you set that up though...

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How can I record and edit using an electronic drum kit to midi on a windows based PC (That I will eventually use in Garageband)?

Hi there
I know this isnt really a Garagband question and possibly a little off GB topic, but in the end I will be using the midi file in Garageband so it kind of is
I'm new to Midi recording so please bare with me.
I am looking to do the following.
Have my drummer record from his Session Pro DD505 electronic drum kit (which has a midi out) into his windows based computer via midi (He owns a usb to midi cable), so that he can then email me the midi file, so I can add it to a song in Garageband on my Mac. I will then choose the sound of the drum kit myself from Garageband.
He needs to be able to correct any errors he has made in the midi file before emailing it me, either by re-recording sections or by moving the incorrect drum notes to the correct beat.
I guess he would need to be able to hear the song that he is playing along to, and possibly have a click track playing at the same time.
So I guess what I am looking for is some FREE windows software to be able to record midi drum files into, that can also be used to edit the midi file after. A separate free piece of software could also be used to edit the drum midi files instead though.
I know that I can correct the midi drum files myself in Garageband, but I would rather my drummer spent the time doing this, not myself.
I've spent a bit of time googling this today but keep bringing up the wrong things as I'm probably using the wrong search terms.
So, any ideas?
thanks

You will be able to use the Cubase AI4 with any audio interface. Another option is to look for a 30 day demo of software like Reaper http://www.reaper.fm/index.php It won't stop after 30 days... just your concience needs to respond
Problem is though that if all you want to record is the MIDI then your drummer will also need some drum sounds in the form of a software instrument or a 3rd party VST to load into the recording software. So another program that comes uncrippled but has drum sounds in it is Ableton Live http://www.ableton.com/products However this can be an intimidating piece of software and it also cripples itself after 30 days.

How do I use GarageBand as a amp/speaker to listen to my Electronic Drum set? I have a MIDI-USB cord already but I can't figure out how to listen to my set through the software using my computer speakers?

How do I use GarageBand as a amp/speaker to listen to my Electronic Drum set? I have a MIDI-USB cord already but I can't figure out how to listen to my set through the software using my computer speakers?

If you want to listen to the sounds of your drum set, you should use an audio cable and connect it to the computer's line-in, then create a real instrument track.
If you use a Midi/USB interface, you'll have to create a software instrument track and select one of GB's drumsets as the instrument. Hopefully your drumset's midi notes are mapped to the right sounds in GB.

MIDI Electronic Drums

I am not very well versed in both MIDI and Logic so please consider this a newbie question. A friend of mine has electronic drums that he would like me to record. The output of the module has both stereo and midi. I don't want to use the stereo outs because I want to have as much control of each drum sound as possible, so I assume using the MIDI out would be the way to go. I've been reading the mapped instruments section in the manuel but don't quite get it yet. I guess my question is, given the outputs of the module, how can I record/seperate each drum sound to it's own channel. Thanks.

I don't want to use the stereo outs because I want to have as much control of each drum sound as possible, so I assume using the MIDI out would be the way to go.
Yes, that's right.
But there are many ways to achieve what you want;
1) Most eDrum kits use (GM) General MIDI (Extended) formats, so they transmit the MIDI data on Channel 10, using a 'standard' pad assignment to trigger a virtual instrument (V.I) in Logic. For example, the kick is on C1 (note #36), the snare is on D1 (#37) etc. Again, most eDrum kits let the user reassign those outputs to match a software instrument if you need to - often you don't, if you're using a standard kit in your V.I.
If you record the MIDI data in Logic, and use a drum sampler [(such as EZ Drummer or Superior drummer)|http://www.toontrack.com/products.asp?] the MIDI notes will play the correct drum sound, as these instruments understand which note plays the kick, snare, hi-hat etc. Using one of these drum instruments also enables you to create multi-channel outputs so you can process and mix the tracks individually, or you could use one of the drum sampler instruments in Logic's EXS24.
2) If you don't have a dedicated V.I. you still have many options. You can separate out the MIDI notes contained in your MIDI region to separate tracks. You'll find a command in the 'Region' menu in Logic's arrange window which is 'demix By note pitch.' Using this on your MIDI region will create new tracks - one for all the kick notes (C1), one for all the snare notes etc. Then you can assign multiple instances of a V.I each of which will play the only sound you have assigned to that note.
3) Mapped Instrument. This is an instrument that you can create in Logic which will take all of one MIDI note, and reassign it to another note to match your V.I. Usually, you don't have to use it, unless you have a non-standard MIDI layout for either the eDrums or your V.I. It can be convenient to have anyway, to save as templates for various setups you might want to use, but as you say you're just starting out, you may not need this feature yet. It's also useful if your eDrum kit doesn't have the ability to change it's pad assignments to different notes, or you're using a non-standard custom set of samples, such as a percussion kit, where you may want to assign your snare MIDI pad to a shaker, for example.
If you're sure you need to use a mapped instrument, then post again for details on how to set it up. Meanwhile, more details about the eDrums you are using, together with which V.I. you're planning to use, would help to give you more specific answers.

How do I properly map my electronic drums to GarageBand?

Hello,
I have a set of Yamaha DTXplorer (DTXPL) midi drums, and have a problem using them with the majority of samples for GarageBand.
The biggest issue is that the Snare Drum doesn't seem to be mapped from the drum set to the software instruments. (Hitting the snare doesn't produce any sound). The other drum parts seem to work fine, just not the Snare Drum.
Is there any information on how to map my drum set to be completely in synch with GarageBand standards?

Mapping DTXPLORER MIDI using GarageBand
Here is the (hopefully) definitive guide for getting a Yamaha DTXPLORER (a.k.a. DT-Explorer, DTXPL) electronic drum set to connect to Apple's GarageBand via MIDI.
SYMPTOM: When connecting DTXPLORER to GarageBand using MIDI, the snare drum is silent and the bass drum triggers a sort of snare roll instead of a bass hit.
PROBLEM: The DTXPLORER (for whatever reason) sends out the snare note on G2 (key 31) and the kick note on A2 (key 33). This is a non-standard MIDI key mapping for these instruments.
SOLUTION: Remap the snare and kick MIDI notes using the freeware app MidiPipe from SubtleSoft (http://homepage.mac.com/nicowald/SubtleSoft/) to the standard GarageBand MIDI keys using the following steps:
(Note: These settings were tested using GarageBand 3.0.2 and MidiPipe 1.4.1.)
1. Connect your DTXPLORER via MIDI to GarageBand and verify that GarageBand can record the drum sounds.
2. Close GarageBand.
3. Launch MidiPipe. You will create a Pipe that looks like this:
Midi In
Key Mapper
Key Mapper
Midi Out
Do so by dragging the appropriate components from the Tools column to the Pipes column in the appropriate order.
4. Once you've assembled the pipe (with the components in the correct order listed above), configure the settings as follows:
Midi In:
- Midi Input: (Your USB or FireWire MIDI device)
- Options: check "hijack"
Key Mapper (kick drum):
- Key In: A2 (33)
- Key Out: C3 (36)
- Options: UNcheck "Solo selected "Key In""
Key Mapper (snare drum):
- Key In: G2 (31)
- Key Out: D3 (38)
- Options: UNcheck "Solo selected "Key In""
Midi Out:
- MIDI Output: MidiPipe Output 1
- Options: UNcheck "Pass Through" and UNcheck "Use Note Off Velocity"
5. Choose File: Save As and save your pipe to a memorable location. You will need to retrieve this file every time you wish to record your drum set using GarageBand.
6. Relaunch GarageBand and attempt to record your drum set. The snare and the bass drum should now be mapped correctly!
Note: If you have having difficulties with the pipe and would like to verify that the key mapping is taking effect, add a "Keyboard" component to the pipe after the "Key Mapper"s. That will give you a visual representation of which key is being triggered for each drum pad.
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Garageband and Electronic Drum DTXPlorer300

i have a macbook pro whit garageband 08 installed and i have a electronic drum Yamaha DTXPlorer300, my problem is that i am connecting my drum using a "M-audio Midisport UNO" it is an midi interface (midi-usb)... it is detected by GB but when i play my drum the sound that GB recognises is other than what i expected, for example if a play the Kick bass drum pad, garagaband recognise it as Snare pad, i don't know what to do, or what setting can change to assign another value into the midi Channel, please help me thank you....

ok i used the Midipipe software and i fixed the mapping on the snare, but in the bass drum, i did it too, just that i still listen a sort of snare and the bass that i mapped, i followed the process from this page
http://www.bigbluelounge.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=263533&sid=ec53ce5387045d1da 8511dd937071746
and it works but i don't know how can i do to just use the key that i am mapping insted of using both simoustanesly... thank you and ill be waiting for our help

Electronic drums

electronic drums: I am trying to connect my alesis triggerio to garageband on the latest osx. I thought I saw something on the web about what settings or drivers I need. Please help :-(
I can see the triggerio in the midi devices in audio midi set up.
I thought I saw something where the usb connection would show up in the choices for input source?
THanks

Yes. GB seems to indicate that it is connected to the midi. But no sound.
Do I need to do something like this ???
http://www.vdrums.com/forum/showthread.php?54532
First of all You got a Mac.... It's perfect!
Now i'll tell you how to use it.
Plug all MIDI device you want to use and turn it on. Don't forget to plud your USB to MIDI device!
Go in the appliction folder.. You'll see another folder cll UTILITIES.
Get in there and you'll see AUDIO MIDI SETUP. Double click on it!
Click on the ON THE FIELD OVER CONFIGURATION and put it on NEW.
Give it the name you want... Ex: Test config Midi
You should see your USB to MIDI device.
Click on ADD DEVICE and configure it well...
EX: You'll see a new KEYBOARD... double click on it and change the icone to the one that you want . I've take the second one that look like my TD-12. Enter the DEVICE NAME (V-DRUM), MANIFACTURER (ROLAND) AND THE MODEL (TD-12) and put the chanel you use. Click on APPLY
What's next.....
Do you see the little arrow on the buttom of the USB-MIDI device and at the top of your V-DRUM... click on it and DRAG UNTIL OU CONNECT IT TO YOUR DEVICE.... THIS IS THE WAY TO CONNECT YOUR DEVICE VIRTUALY. THIS IS VERRY IMPORTANT. ENTER EACH DEVICE END PLUG IT VIRTUALY ON EACH OTHER.
Now open garage band and you'll get a message that you've got a new midi device. GREAT.
Create a new project..
click on the + icone on the buttom left and choose Software instrument.Click on CREATE.
You'll see a new GRAND PIANO track. click on it and change it to DRUM KITS and chose the want you want!
Now save your project.
Take your drum stics click on the record button and play.

GarageBand snare drum midi mapping help

I am trying to get my simmons sdxpress to trigger only the rimshot snare sound. I am using midibridge to map the notes correctly, but the person helping me that developed the app says "There is a problem mapping the rimshot. That is, GB will sound both the
existing snare *and* the rimshot with this mapping. This is because
GB insists on listening to your simmons no matter what and it is not
possible to switch that off. So, it will react to the simmons events
directly as well as the remapped ones from MidiBridge. This is not likely
to work so well for you I think, but I have left that mapping in anyway so
you can see if that works. If not, just removed that 'rimshot' line from
the rules to stop that mapping." Is there any way to get the rimshot sound only to be triggered from the drumset? Thank you

The best answer to this problem so far has been to load the BFD2 audio data to a separate external HD.
After reading a ton and getting assistance from another site its clear that GB and a large streaming programs such as BFD2 can NOT function together without a more powerful set up.
Note: Using GB and its rhythm Jam pack works just fine. I prefer not to use GB sounds for drums.
If you have electronic drums and your looking at issues, try using a separate HD.

How do I change the voices of my electronic drum set?

Yesterday I purchased a Roland TD-9KX electronic drum set and an M-Audio MIDISport Uno interface and got them all plugged in and playing nice with each other.
In Garageband, I can toggle the drum kits from Big Beat to Electro to Hip Hop to Rock and so on, but I want to change just one voice of the drum at a time. Say for example I want to load the Hip Hop Kit, then change just the High Hat or change just the Kick Drum to some other sound.
Garageband seems to have a preloaded arrangement of notes that the drums will play for each set and I can't see anywhere to change it. Like what if I wanted to make the kick drum sound like a dog barking, assuming that sound was in the kit? And what if it was in another kit?

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I've just purchased a Roland SPD-8 drum MIDI controller. It's quite old, so I've had to get the MIDI to USB converter to connect it, but my computer is picking it up.
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Spotlight doesn's search Library folders, maybe that's why you don't find anything. Take a look at these two folders and remove anything that you don't need (i.e. remove anything that you don't know - in a basic setup, there should be nothing in there):
HD/Library/Audio/MIDI Drivers
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Electronic Drumset MIDI Garageband standard drumkits problems

Hi,
I have a Yamaha DTXPLORER drumset:
http://www.yamaha-europe.com/yamahaeurope/uk/10_musical_instruments/40_drums/40_electronic_drums/08_dtxplorer/10_no _series/10dtxplorer/index.html
I have a simple MIDI interface connected between my Mac and the drumset.
Everything is communicating between Garageband and the drumset BUT the setup is not right when I try to play something. Some of the drums sounds like it should but when I hit the snare drum it sounds like a hi-hat. And when I change to another Garageband drum kit it can change to so something else.
How can I change the MIDI-setup so everything sounds like it should?
It has to be in Garageband as the different drumkits have different basic setups so the problem moves around when I switch.
And I want to hear what I am playing and not edit it afterwards...
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In GB you dont have a "Learn" function, that I was hoping for. I have seen different drum plugins having that. That costs extra... But I really want to use the ones that comes with GB and this feature should be there. So if you had this Learn-function you could customize the different drums "position" so it fit the drumset you have. The electronic drumsets in cheaper today so actually a non-pro can actually afford it and but then as a user of GB will bump in to problems.
I have some tip to use Midipipe that hijack the MIDI-in and that you can change the map but I don't know how to do it in detail. And I want to do it in GB where you have different drum maps as you say and the save them to fit my drumset for the future...

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Hey there everyone! This is my first time posting on the Apple Discussions board and I'm new to macs, I hope someone out there can maybe help me with my little problem!
I've got my electronic drumset (Roland V-drums TD-6) hooked up through the TASCAM US-144 usb/midi audio interface. The usb hooked up to the computer, the Line Thru/In cable going from the drums to the Tascam as well as the MIDI cable. The latest drivers installed, and Garage band recognizes the signal sent from the interface. When i hit one of the drums you can see the light go up, so i know the signal is getting form the drums to the computer.
The problem is i can hear absoloutely no sound? When i try to record there are little dark spots on the time where i was playing (sort of like a Piano Roll i guess??) but theres just no sound.
So my question is *+how do i get sound to come through the computer so i can record straight from my drums to garageband without having all the slaps the pads make in a live recording?+*
Any help really appreciated!

Wow, sorry it took so long to get back but i went to go take a closer look, and voila changed the output settings so it was just input and it works
thanks so much!
You wouldnt happen to know if you can transfer the sounds from the roland too, do you? it seems like you can only use the presets from the drum kits.
Thanks again

Midi problems: I can't hit the same note rapidly, unlesss the sample has finished.

Hi, I'd appreciate any help on this.
I'm trying to record midi drums into Logic Pro via a Yamaha DD-55 and a USB to midi cable. However, I cannot hit any note more than once, I can, for example play a snare, hi-hat, kick, hi-hat no problem, but if I tried to hit a double kick I would have no joy. I have to wait a second or two for the first kick sample to run out.
I am using a Mac Book Pro 17", mid 2009 model running Lion 10.7.3.
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Yamaha DD-55 Digital percussion
USB to Midi in/out cable
I've updated the Yamaha midi drivers. Followed several on-line 'set-up midi' tutorials but with the same issue, the sound comes through but I cannot play more than one of the same note in quick succesion.
Your help and/or advice is greatly appreciated.

Hi there, yes I set local control to 'off', it seems I have to do this every time I turn on the DD-55, which is not a problem. I've set each pad to an individual channel on he unit, and matched here channels in the software synth in Logic, just got this issue with the pads not letting me play them more than once without hitting another pad first or waiting for the sample to end.
Any further suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Newbie HELP with electronic drums

Hey,
So I love my mac as all you do, but I got so frustrated trying to record my drums with an input instead of the mic, because it sounds horrible. My friend sent me a guitar track that I would like to listen to while recording my beat, but 1. I cant get my drums to record, and 2. now the song wont even play, I mean it runs but I cant hear anything, and no its not muted. I have a roland set if that helps, I think the problem might even be that Im not using the correct cord.
Anyone that can help me just get started?

gstigall wrote:
Hey,
So I love my mac as all you do, but I got so frustrated trying to record my drums with an input instead of the mic, because it sounds horrible. My friend sent me a guitar track that I would like to listen to while recording my beat, but 1. I cant get my drums to record, and 2. now the song wont even play, I mean it runs but I cant hear anything, and no its not muted. I have a roland set if that helps, I think the problem might even be that Im not using the correct cord.
Anyone that can help me just get started?
It sounds like the first thing is to get the song to play so you can hear it. You didn't say anything about your setup, so I'm not sure if you're using an interface or the Mac's built in audio. Either way, go to Preferences in GB -> Audio/MIDI -> and choose what audio output you want to use. It may be on the wrong setting.
Then, with your drums, are you using them as a MIDI controller (playing GB's internal sounds as a "software instrument") or an audio device (sending their own sounds to GB as a "real instrument")? There are different ways to set up (and troubleshoot) each.
If you're recording the actual audio of the Roland as a real instrument, then make sure that the track is record enabled (little red dot) and, in the info pane on the lower right side, you've selected the correct input AND the monitor is set to ON.

ELECTRONIC DRUM MIDI PROBLEM!

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