Elements 10 Organizer Question

When I open up Elements 10 Editor, it works fine. But when I try to open up Elements 10 Organizer, it says there is a error and wont open. Why is this happening?

OS version?
Exact steps to reproduce the problem?
What is the error message?
Ken

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Elements Organizer Problem - Question Marks and Application Won't Quit Cleanly

I recently upgraded from Photoshop Elements/Premier Elements 11 to version 13 on a Mac. After the upgrade, my elements organizer is experiencing some issues.
1. When I click on a double click on a thumbnail, I am taken to screen that has a large question mark on it. (Not the photo) Elements organizer knows exactly where the file is on my hard drive though as I can edit it in photoshop elements. In addition, I can right click on the thumbnail and select show file Info -> Double click on Location. When I do this I am taken do the correct file in finder.
2. My other issue is that the program doesn't close properly. If I choose Quit from the menu bar, the program GUI closes, but it stays resident in my dock. I have to force close in order to open the organizer again.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks!
Ben

Trying renaming your contacts.xml file. To access the file, you need to go - Macintosh HD/Library/Application Support/adobe/elements organizer/organizer/settings I just named it "renamedfile.xml". A new contacts file will appear after you reopen the program.
I've had this problem a few times and renamed this file (after a support person from Adobe told me to the first time). It opens after I remaned it.
The contacts function of the organizer doesn't seem to be a stable. It always deletes entries that I want to add in.
Hope this helps

Newbie question about Premiere Elements Organizer

This is a pre-newbie – let’s say “virgin” question. If there is an answer already posted elsewhere, please send me a link.
I’m about to install Premiere Elements 9 to do some clip editing and animation from still images. This would be my first attempt to edit clip or do some animation from still images, besides using Windows Media Maker with my HS students. However, I have been a pretty serious photographer for 20+ years with 1,000’s of images which I now work on in PS CS5 Extended and Lightroom 3. I use Adobe Bridge and LR library to catalogue and organize my images. I’d like to continue to use AB / LR Library to organize my new clips and projects. From reading Bill’s posts, it seems I can use Adobe Bridge, copy my original file, resize in Photoshop, and save in a new folder to use for a Premiere project. This would seem to be most intuitive way for me to work. I already have keywords, metadata, actions in PS… etc. But I think Bill is using Premiere Pro, while I’ll be installing Premiere Elements, which comes bundled with Elements Organizer. Do I need to install or use Elements Organizer? What are the advantages/disadvantages or EO? I guess I’m a little worried about installing the programs and having EO automatically acquire images using presets/defaults that I don’t want to use as well as issues with subfolders, etc. I'm running Windows 7.
Thanks
FYI- this is a great animation project
http://www.thejohnnycashproject.com/#/explore/TopRated

ziggycat4 wrote:
I guess I’m a little worried about installing the programs and having EO automatically acquire images using presets/defaults that I don’t want to use as well as issues with subfolders,
EO doesn't do much with the files themselves, just maintains links to the sources.
For folders you are best to use the folder view in EO to move them as it doesn't keep track of folder locations when changed in Windows Explorer. From the File options in Bridge I think that is pretty much the same.
ziggycat4 wrote:
I would like to get as much input as possible on the advantages/disadvantages of using EO vs say Adobe Bride from others who use Elements Organizer.
Any insights would be appreciated.
Can anyone who has used both EO and AB comment on how EO handles missing (hidden) files, syncing issues, computer hanging up or crashing....etc?
I've only messed around a little with Bridge. But to me it seems lightening fast by comparison to EO. The features Albums and Tags in EO seem much the same as Collections and Keywords in Bridge.
EO has Face Recognition abilities - getting more sophisticated in each version. I've not seen this feature in Bridge.
By default EO allows you to open a file in any of:
Photoshop
Photoshop Elements
Premiere Elements
A single used-defined application (I have mine set to ColorPilot).
Bridge only seems to link to Photoshop.
Missing files can be located manually or by allowing EO to search for them.
Cheers,
Neale
Insanity is hereditary, you get it from your children

Elements Organizer 8- A question everyone should consiter

Will the picture management system I've programmed with Elements Organizer 8 be lost if I reformat my computer? How do I prevent the loss of my picture management system I've programmed with Elements Organizer 8 while reformatting my computer?
I store my photos on an external hard drive, because I have about 500Gigs of photos. Therefore, any metadata saved to the photos would not be lost, but metadata saved to the Elements Organizer would be. I am not positive about this, but organizer Organizer seems to store the metadata I add through Organizer somewhere within the organizer's archiving system, as oppose to adding it to the metadata programmed into the picture file by my camera. Am I correct?
If I would lose my system, could this loss be prevented by using the online sycronizing Adobe offers? I haven't yet synced because my photos far exceed thier photo backup stoage limit. Although I'm wondering if by syncing I could backup all the metadata I've added for all my photos so that elements could reload it when I reinstall the program after the reformat.

I like #1, I did a 'test run' and it copied a lot of data files along with my pictures, so it seems to be what I am looking for.
However, #2 might still apply. I edit and manage my photos out of the aforementioned external hard drive, but I have back ups of the origionals and edits on a second external hard drive and a second back up of the origionals on DVDs: Both of with I manage manually.
Where would I locate the *.pse8db file to copy it?

Elements Organizer does not install when reinstalling PSE10

I have a problem that I cannot seem to resolve. Previously Adobe Photoshop Elements 10 had been running flawlessly on my computer and was easily opened by clicking the desktop icon which had a "C:\Program Files (x86)\Adobe\Elements 10 Organizer\Photoshop Elements 10.0.exe" target. After uninstalling and reinstalling Photoshop Elements 10, when I click on the Desktop icon to start the application, I get a dialog box that says "The item 'Photoshop Elements 10.0.exe' that this shortcut refers to has been changed or moved so this shortcut will no longer work properly". If I right click the Photoshop Elements 10 desktop icon and check properties, the Target says "C:\Program Files (x86)\Adobe\Elements 10 Organizer\Photoshop Elements 10.0.exe". When I open Explorer and navigate to where the target says the application file should be, the "Elements 10 Organizer" directory does not exist. The only directory that does exist is the "Photoshop Elements 10" directory and it contains the 'PhotoshopElementsEditor.exe'. Yes if I click on that file the Editor opens, however when I try to load the Organizer workspace once the editor is open, it does not load because the entire folder and application is missing. I even tried searching the entire C-Drive to find the Photoshop Elements 10.0.exe file but it was nowhere to be found.
To be specific, I had PSE8, PSE9, and PSE10 installed on my 64-bit Windows 7 Professional w/SP1 computer. I decided to uninstall PSE8 & 9 because I had just purchased PSE12 and wanted to make room for the PSE12 installation. When I tried to first uninstall PSE8, the uninstaller stopped with the warning that PSE8 was installed in the same directory as PSE10. The uninstall then terminated when I clicked on OK. Next tried to uninstall PSE9 and received the same warning and uninstaller termination. The same thing happened when I tried to uninstall PSE10. Faced with the situation that all three products were installed in the same directory and would not uninstall individually, I found it necessary to uninstall all three applications manually according to the directions on the Adobe's knowledgebase.
To uninstall PSE8, PSE9, & PSE10, first thing I did was create a system restore point which is something I always do just in case something goes wrong. Then starting with PSE8, I first printed out the Photoshop Elements Help "Manually remove Photoshop Elements 8 | Windows that I found at http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/826/cpsid_82673.html. Subsequently I printed out the directions for each product, PSE8, PSE9, and PSE10, are all on the Adobe website. Next I followed the directions contained in each article except for running the product uninstaller as I mentioned above and removed all three applications then rebooted my machine.
Next I reinstalled PSE10 and tried to open it only to find that it did not fully install especially the Elements Organizer. As mentioned you can open the Editor by going directly to the executable file however you cannot access the Organizer because it did not install and cannot be found anywhere on the computer. I have uninstalled and reinstalled PSE10 five time now each time using the product Uninstaller plus the "Manually remove PSE10" directions and I still cannot get the Elements Organizer to install.
My question is does Adobe have a utility that can be run after manually installing a specific product that would find registry entries that were not removed after completing the manual removal process? The problem I see is the manual removal process which shows possible registry entries to remove manually is built on the assumption that you were able to run the Uninstaller which is not the case with my problem.
Secondly does anyone have any suggestions on how to install both the PSE10 Organizer and Editor?

I believe I found a solution but I need help in changing some of the parameters to reflect for a United States program install.
If you go to "Elements 10 Organizer is not installed [SOLUTION]" at http://forums.adobe.com/message/4745941 you will note the Poster says it is possible to force the install of Elements Organizer 10 by using the command line:
msiexec /i "E:\Adobe Photoshop Elements 10\ElementsOrganizer\Elements 10 Organizer.msi" TRANSFORMS=1031.mst ELEMENTS_DE_DE=1 ORGANIZER_DE_DE=1 STARTWATCHSERVICE=1 SUPPRESSREBOOT=0 NOT_STANDALONE=1 /l*v "C:\Users\<username>\AppData\Local\Temp\OrganizerInstall.log".
I found that the above command line input does in fact start the setup for the PSE10 "Elements Organizer" Installer except it is in a language other than English.
Is there anyone familiar enough with coding and command line prompts to change whatever paramenters are necessary to have the installer run in English.
Hopefully there are some Adobe Staff monitoring this message that can answer the question for me.
Message was edited by: DAllenJ2215

How can I import photos from iPhoto '09 to Elements Organizer 10 while keeping the tags attached?

I have spent a ridiculously long time tagging photos in my iPhotos but I would now like to transfer all my photos to Elements Organizer and preserve all the work I had done.
From Adobe's help website (http://help.adobe.com/en_US/elementsorganizer/using/WS73c05ee9864270ea-417df45c129593bfa05 -8000.html) it says I can import the tags along with the photos but does not explain how:
"Elements Organizer 10 supports importing photos, along with their associated captions, tags, and ratings, from iPhoto. You also have the option to import information such as events and albums to maintain the organization of your library"
When I follow the steps outlined on the website my photos are imported but there are no tags attached to them. I am particularly interested in keeping my facial tags but I suppose it would be useful to know how to keep other keyword tags and ratings as well.
There was a previous question put out on the forums similar to this but it was unresolved and the person decided to just leave everything in iPhoto. I really would prefer to transfer all my photos to Elements Organizer. I don't like the way iPhoto organizes photos but I had to deal with it for several years before I bought Elements Photoshop with built-in Organizer.
Please Please help!
Many thanks
D.M.

You don't import one library to another. Just copy the library from the iBook to the Pictures folder on shout new MacBook Pro. If you have another library already on the MBP rename it so you don't overwrite it with the old library.
Launch iPhoto with the Option key held down and select the newly copied library and let iPhoto convert it to the new version.
Do you have photos in the library on the new MacBook Pro that you want to combine with the older library?

How to export photos from Elements Organizer on Mac?

I saw someone asked the same question and it seemed not to be possible with the Mac version. Surely this can't be possible as this must be one of the single most important functions in an Archving system.

rugfoot wrote:
The problem is I can't move them to a new folder. If I could I wouldn't have the export problem. I just dragging and dropping but it doesn't work. I have made a selection (15) of photos in Elements Organizer but I can't identify which ones they are (from 300) in the Mac Finder app (= Windows Explorer).
Sorry, I can't test that on a Mac, but I thought that 'Windows only' features would be stated on the Adobe pdf help file, and moving file is not mentionned as Windows only, whereas 'export' is clearly stated as Windows only.
http://help.adobe.com/en_US/elementsorganizer/using/elementsorganizer_10_help.pdf
Chapter 7 - Move files in a catalog
Edit,
By the way, the very useful faq list in the right panel of this forum links to PSE9, not PSE10 for the location of the guides.

Photoshop Elements Organizer 11 crashes due to deadlock in the thread wait chain when creating thumbnails for *.mts (AVCHD) files

Hi,
the Elements Organizer 11 creates a deadlock in the wait chain when generating thumbnails for more than a handful of MTS (AVCHD) files.
After importing AVCHD files from my Canon video camera, the organizer using default settings always crashes. I was able to narrow down the problem to be caused by thumbnail generating.
After deactivating the automatic generation of thumbnails, the organizer does not crash any more upon launching .
Of course, working without thumbnails is not very practical. The next resort is manual trigger of thumbnail generation by selecting "update thumbnail".
If I manually trigger updating of thumbnails for files one by one, then it works for quite many files before crashing again.
Selecting thumbnail update for multiple files at once has a much higher likelihood to crash.
This does not seem to be related to particular file contents: a file that leads to crashing once may be flawlessly get a thumbnail created at the next attempt.
The Windows event report looks as follows (German language Windows):
Name der fehlerhaften Anwendung: PhotoshopElementsOrganizer.exe, Version: 11.0.0.0, Zeitstempel: 0x505e9f67
Name des fehlerhaften Moduls: msvcrt.dll, Version: 7.0.9600.16384, Zeitstempel: 0x52158ff5
Ausnahmecode: 0xc0000005
Fehleroffset: 0x00009919
ID des fehlerhaften Prozesses: 0x13c8
Startzeit der fehlerhaften Anwendung: 0x01cfb676145d0c54
Pfad der fehlerhaften Anwendung: C:\Program Files (x86)\Adobe\Elements 11 Organizer\PhotoshopElementsOrganizer.exe
Pfad des fehlerhaften Moduls: C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\msvcrt.dll
Berichtskennung: b8817e29-2269-11e4-bf2d-10bf487f7b28
Vollständiger Name des fehlerhaften Pakets:
Anwendungs-ID, die relativ zum fehlerhaften Paket ist:
Occasionally, a different module is listed as erroneous instead of msvcrt.dll.
My questions:
- has anyone experienced the same problem?
- is this a known issue with Organizer 11?
- is the issue solved with Organizer 12?
I have Premiere Elements 11, Photoshop Elements 11 installed and not experienced any other issues with these applications.
Playback of said AVCHD (*.mts) files works flawlessly, i.e. I do not have any codec or performance issue on my PC.
Deactivation of anti-virus software has no significant effect. I have excluded video directories from scanning anyways.
Have deactivated face recognition, visual search and smart tagging in the organizer.
Have also disabled hyperthreading in the BIOS.
Using Windows XP compatibility settings for PSE somewhat improved the stability, but did not completely eliminate crashes.
Additionally, it signnificantly slows down thumbnail generation and a progress indication window becomes visible during thumbnail generation, which is barely noticable in native Win 8.1 mode.
Officially, Elements 11 is compatible with Windows 8.1.
There is a knowledgebase article related to Elements 6, which recommends to disable multi-threading and to enforce execution of Organizer on more than one core.
This reduces the problem a little bit, but thumbnailing more than a handful of files still leads to crashing.
By means of the task manager, I analyzed the wait chain of the process PhotoshopElementsOrganizer.exe:
Every time the fault occurs, it is caused by a deadlock in the wait chain.
For example:
PhotoshopElementsOrganizer.exe (PID:6440) Thread: 6540
-- PhotoshopElementsOrganizer.exe (PID:6440) Thread: 5932
---- PhotoshopElementsOrganizer.exe (PID:6440) Thread: 6540
PhotoshopElementsOrganizer.exe (PID:6440) Thread: 5932
-- PhotoshopElementsOrganizer.exe (PID:6440) Thread: 6540
---- PhotoshopElementsOrganizer.exe (PID:6440) Thread: 5932
Regards
Oliver
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Hi,
I'm experiencing the same problem after importing MTS files.
When you said that you unisntall all other codec, what do you mean?
Codec Inside element software?
I have desable the automatic thumbnail and it still crash.
I'M running the software and trying to import more video files and the program keep crashing during the process of selecting the files in the directory to be imported.
i went in my windows 7 journal and here is the error.
System
Provider
[ Name]
Application Error
EventID
1000
[ Qualifiers]
0
Level
2
Task
100
Keywords
0x80000000000000
TimeCreated
[ SystemTime]
2014-08-31T19:36:04.000000000Z
EventRecordID
244366
Channel
Application
Computer
Ordi-Denis
Security
EventData
PhotoshopElementsOrganizer.exe
11.0.0.0
503fdd1d
MSACM32.dll
6.1.7600.16385
4a5bda4e
c0000005
00004d91
1634
01cfc552c927dce5
C:\Program Files (x86)\Adobe\Elements 11 Organizer\PhotoshopElementsOrganizer.exe
C:\Windows\system32\MSACM32.dll
0b097e53-3146-11e4-a14e-bcaec51a14f7
Please i need help since Adobe is not helping us.

Max files in Photoshop Elements Organizer

Hello,
I have few questions:
1/
Following this thread, I am wondering what is the limit of PhotoShop Elements Organizer V8 ?? How many pictures can we insert into ONE catalog ?
2/
I currently have 6000 pictures that I would like to import into PhotoShop Elements Organizer V8, from Adobe PhotoShop Album V1.
Is this possible ? I tried with the trial version, but I have an error when converting the .psa file from PhotoShop Album V1, asking me to try to consolidate or repair the file in the previous program (but it works well in PhotoShop Album V1).
Any idea ?
3/
Is the trial version the same than the paid one ? I mean: if I start using the trial, inserting tags and so on, should I uninstall it when buying the full version or could I just buy a serial number and inserting it to unlock the trial ?
Thanks a lot,
Kamayana

John,
You are just MARVELOUS !!!! That's awesome: your website, the informations listed in it, the work you do here on the forum !!
Wow !!! I will purchase this product just for your support. Can I pay you to obtain a support and pay you the software ? Lol
You replied to all my questions !
For 2/, I read before your FAQ (I thought it was Adobe FAQ, I did not pay attention to the URL), I tried it without success (excepted item 9/ which is not possible for me, since PhotoShop Album does not allow writing metadata to files, but maybe your small program can do it ?) ...
But since I do not give up like that, I done the following, you might add it to your FAQ ?
1/ I used the dichotomy method. I was sure that some files gave problems. So, my 6000 pictures have been separated into 6 albums (1000 each). Then, I run the converting tool on each one. All worked, excepted one. This one, I share into 500 pictures each. I run the tool on each one. One was OK, the other one fail. The one which fails has been separated in 250 pictures each... And so on. Until you see which pictures cause problems... In my case, it was some modified pictures (2 of them).
Then, I eliminate this 2 pictures from my initial 6000 catalog, I do the import again, and... SUCCESS !!
Hope it might help someone else.
Kamayana

Lightroom vs Photoshop Elements Organizer

I don't know Lightroom, but a friend suggested it as a solution to my problem, so here goes:
I have a subscription to CC (and have used Creative Suite for years). I use CC at work, but for my personal, non-work photos, I have always used Photoshop Elements Organizer, because I have never found its equal -- as an organizer. Also, I have invested a massive amount of effort into tagging every photo (about 30,000 images, more than 10 years' worth) with keywords.
I have no interest in Photoshop Elements' other features. I have CC for anything that PSE does that I care to do.
However, I don't really want to keep shelling out for PSE, since I'm already paying (have paid) about a zillion dollars to Adobe over the years for Creative Suite and now CC.
So here's the question: Can I use Lightroom (or Bridge, perhaps) as a substitute for PSE Organizer? Does either program import PSE Organizer's catalogs? Because unless I can import what I've got, no other organizer will do it for me.
I'd also consider another organizer product if it could import PSE catalogs, but I'm hoping there's a little gem of a program already in CC that I'm not aware of that will do the trick.
TIA.

I don't use the face recognition tags in PSE, but I think that those will not transfer to Lightroom, as there is no way to accomodate face recognition tags in Lightroom.
Earlier you said
However, I don't really want to keep shelling out for PSE, since I'm already paying (have paid) about a zillion dollars to Adobe over the years for Creative Suite and now CC.
so why keep paying for PSE upgrades? There are rarely any new "organizing" features in PSE. Just keep using the version you have, you can probably use it for many years until your operating system won't support older versions of PSE. My PSE 5 still runs under Windows 7 and I have heard that PSE 5 runs under Windows 8.

People names in elements organizer are not saved.

After i name people in elements organizer 10 why are the names not saved? I have to name some of them again and again each time I reopen the program. I'm using the same catalog each time. Also, some names, even though they are in my people list, have to be entered (typed in) each time as Elements does not prompt

Lone_Wolf wrote:
rezad,
it was a long time ago i had that problem and locale handling is like a black box to me.
It's easy to reverse if it doesn't help though, why don't you try it ?
I have tried it.
adding other encoding before the famous en-US,UTF-8 one gives warning for default lang and falling back.
I see these error when running apps from command line.
adding other encodings after that encoding doesn't show this warning but i have a suspicion that it mean that other encoding are suppressed,
i have to try it with a file with a wired but known encoding and then adding that encoding to config and testing again.
my problem is how do i find the filename encoding?(not find content encoding)
this is the file in question. can somebody tell me what is the filename encoding?
https://www.sendspace.com/file/fwmxpc
EDIT: my findings on this matter.
even adding all the langs to /etc/locale.gen and then using locale-gen command doesnt fix this. cause this are different issues.
this problem as a whole doesn't have a solution, cause linux unlike windows doesn't have a default inbuilt filename encoding and it all depends on your environment.
linux just treat the filename in the encoding you tell it. so it cant detect anything cause there is nothing to detect.
from its perspective filename are just binary data ready to be interpreted as wished by the user.
widows on the other hand uses UTF-16.
plz if anybody have another contradicting point ,then reply but plz dont say I have to use correct encoding. the only way to fix it is using convmv util and that requires finding the correct original encoding.
thanks for all the replys.
Last edited by rezad (2015-04-20 14:45:14)

Premier Elements & Elements Organizer

Every time I start a project in Premiere Elements 12, Elements Organizer automatically added to the catalog photos or videos used in the project. I do not want it that way. I do not want the pictures or videos used in the project are added to Elements Organizer. How I can do this?

Pumby
Premiere Elements 12 and earlier all work off the same principle, that is, you import a file into Premiere Elements workspace and a copy of the file is automatically placed in the Elements Organizer.
The Add Media dialog does not contain an Option not to import the file also into Elements Organizer.
Until proven otherwise, it is what it is.
We might want to talk about Watch Folders and media getting into the Elements Organizer. The following is my last involvement with that type of question when the Watch Folders came up in Premiere Elements 9.0/9.0.1. The principles would be applicable to Photoshop Elements 12 and Premiere Elements 12.
http://forums.adobe.com/thread/738120
Please check out the above and do not hesitate to ask if you need clarification on anything that I have written.
Thanks.
ATR
Add On...I will try to defy "it is what it is" but in this case I think that my first impression targets the matter.

How can I use LR as an Editor while using Elements Organizer as the Database?

I started this question in the LR newbie section of the forum but maybe a few more eyes should see the question.
Simply put, I want to stay with Elements Organizer as the database of my holdings. (Yes, I've tried the LR analog and it does not do as well for me.)
I'd like to mouse a file ovfer to LR, do edits in LR, and then get the finished product back to Elements. I suspect that is an EXPORT issue on LR's part but am not sure.
Are there others who have a similar requirement?
How should I proceed?

Hi Linus,
I'm admittedly out on a limb here, since I have zero experience with Photoshop Elements. On the plus side, I have lots of experience with Lightroom, and plugins which may help.
As Jim said, photos have to be added to Lightroom catalog to be edited, and the 2 possible ways which spring to mind are:
* Manual Import
* Automatic Import
Manual may not be so bad, since you can drag a file (maybe direct from PE, but certainly from OS) and drop it in the library grid, and Lr's import dialog box will open with only that photo selected and 'Add' as the way to import it (as opposed to 'Copy', 'Move', or 'Convert to DNG'). So, all you'd have to do is click the 'OK' (actually it's 'Import') button.
The problem with Lr's automatic import is that it only supports one watched folder, so you'd have to copy files to it, and then info needed to export it to the correct place for return to PE has been lost, so I recommend using Jeffrey Friedl's Folder Watch plugin, or my very own Ottomanic Importer if you choose to go that route. That way, when you export or publish them they'll be where you want them to be (same folder as original, if I understood you correctly).
For return to PE, I'd recommend TreeSyncPublisher. I mean, if you are only ever editing once, and always doing one at a time, then a simple export will suffice, but if you want to edit (and/or re-edit) in batch, a publish service will save you some confusion, since you don't have to remember which photos you edited - just click 'Publish'.
I assume you have some way for PE to recognize new files created by publishing in Lr, and updates to existing files...
You may have to experiment to come up with something that suits well enough - keep us posted..
Rob

IPhoto as Library and Adobe Elements Organizer as download client

I wanted to use Adobe Elements 9 Organizer as the download client as I can actually see image files saved and grouped by folders and iPhoto as library and creative authoring.
Will using iPhoto to create library from Pictures Folder (those saved by Elements Organizer) duplicate the photos that are already in that folder? I kind think that iPhoto will copy those photos into its own. I worry about duplicating the JPEG files in my Pictures Folder.
Thanks.

I'm with Larry when he says to pick one horse and ride it. This can get quite confusing very quickly.
To answer your specific question:
Will using iPhoto to create library from Pictures Folder (those saved by Elements Organizer) duplicate the photos that are already in that folder
By default, yes, but you can set iPhoto not to. But note: a: What Happens when you do - for instance, that various versions of the files will not be available except through iPhoto, which will confuse your proposed system, and b: The various caveats to running a Referenced Library.
*How to do it:*
Simply go to iPhoto Menu -> Preferences -> Advanced and uncheck 'Copy Files to the iPhoto Library on Import'.
*What Happens:*
Now iPhoto will not copy the files, but rather simply reference them on your HD. To do this it will create an alias in the Originals Folder that points to your file. It will still create a thumbnail and, if you modify the pics, a Modified version within the iPhoto Library Folder.
*Some things to consider:*
1. Importing and deleting pics are more complex procedures. You have to to put the files where they will be stored before importing them. When you delete them you'll need to remove the files from the HD yourself.
2. You cannot move or rename the files on your system or iPhoto will lose track of them on systems prior to 10.5 and iPhoto 08. Even with the later versions issues can still arise if you move the referenced files to new volumes or between volumes.
3. Most importantly, migrating to a new disk or computer can be much more complex.
4. Because iPhoto has no tools for managing Referenced Files, if, for some reason, the path to the photos changes then you could find yourself resolving aliases for +each photo in the Library+ one by one.
My own opinion:
I've yet to see a good reason to run iPhoto in referenced mode unless you're using two photo organiser
If disk space is an issue, you can run an entire iPhoto Library from an external disk:
1. Quit iPhoto
2. Copy the iPhoto Library as an entity from your Pictures Folder to the External Disk.
3. Hold down the option (or alt) key while launching iPhoto. From the resulting menu select 'Choose Library' and navigate to the new location. From that point on this will be the default location of your library.
4. Test the library and when you're sure all is well, trash the one on your internal HD to free up space.
If you're concerned about accessing the files, There are many, many ways to access your files in iPhoto:
*For Users of 10.5 and later*
You can use any Open / Attach / Browse dialogue. On the left there's a Media heading, your pics can be accessed there. Command-Click for selecting multiple pics.
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You can access the Library from the New Message Window in Mail:
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*For users of 10.4 and later* ...
Many internet sites such as Flickr and SmugMug have plug-ins for accessing the iPhoto Library. If the site you want to use doesn’t then some, one or any of these will also work:
To upload to a site that does not have an iPhoto Export Plug-in the recommended way is to Select the Pic in the iPhoto Window and go File -> Export and export the pic to the desktop, then upload from there. After the upload you can trash the pic on the desktop. It's only a copy and your original is safe in iPhoto.
This is also true for emailing with Web-based services. However, if you're using Gmail you can use iPhoto2GMail
If you use Apple's Mail, Entourage, AOL or Eudora you can email from within iPhoto.
If you use a Cocoa-based Browser such as Safari, you can drag the pics from the iPhoto Window to the Attach window in the browser.
*If you want to access the files with iPhoto not running*:
For users of 10.6 and later:
You can download a free Services component from MacOSXAutomation which will give you access to the iPhoto Library from your Services Menu. Using the Services Preference Pane you can even create a keyboard shortcut for it.
For Users of 10.4 and later:
Create a Media Browser using Automator (takes about 10 seconds) or use this free utility Karelia iMedia Browser
Other options include:
1. *Drag and Drop*: Drag a photo from the iPhoto Window to the desktop, there iPhoto will make a full-sized copy of the pic.
2. *File -> Export*: Select the files in the iPhoto Window and go File -> Export. The dialogue will give you various options, including altering the format, naming the files and changing the size. Again, producing a copy.
3. *Show File*: Right- (or Control-) Click on a pic and in the resulting dialogue choose 'Show File'. A Finder window will pop open with the file already selected.
*An Alternative*
Set Elements as an External Editor in iPhoto: You can set Photoshop (or any image editor) as an external editor in iPhoto. (Preferences -> General -> Edit Photo: Choose from the Drop Down Menu.) This way, when you double click a pic to edit in iPhoto it will open automatically in Photoshop or your Image Editor, and when you save it it's sent back to iPhoto automatically. This is the only way that edits made in another application will be displayed in iPhoto.
Note that iPhoto sends a copy+ of the file to Photoshop, so when you save be sure to use the Save command, not Save As... If you use Save As then you're creating a new file and iPhoto has no way of knowing about this new file. iPhoto is preserving your original anyway.
Regards
TD

PS Elements/Organizer 11 sync with iCloud Photo Share

i have Photoshop Elements 11 suite on a PC win8. I wanted help in setting up my organizer so everytime I download pictures from my camera/card reader into organizer library, it would sync with icloud photo share. This is a functionality that iPhoto has that I just transitioned from. Since my wife and I take pictures on our iPhones, iPads and other cameras with SD card, the latter photos don't get to be part of the latest taken (not shown on icloud photo share) and we miss out on them when viewing the latest consolidate photos we take. I think I understand the watch folder in Organizer which I set to photo share folder of the icloud app's picture designated folder, but don't know how to set up the upload from organizer to icloud. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

This is a great question. I've been using Photoshop Elements/Organizer (and PS Album before that) for many years and now more recently iCloud. I also am interested in consolidating these collections. I don't think there is any way yet to easily synchronize these, but with iCloud Beta you can easily upload photos in a PSE catalog into iCloud by simply selecting and dragging (I find it necessary to first drag/copy them into a temp folder on my desktop, and then upload them into iCloud using the iCloud Beta upload button). After this full resolution photos will appear in iCloud and on your iPhone and other devices. One problem I've discovered though with turns out to be a real headache, is the dates. The date the photo was taken is not read properly by the iPhone Photo app and so the photo will appear to have an incorrect date. I don't know why this is happening, but it seems to be a problem with how iCloud Beta is importing the JPG file. I wish Apple would solve this. If anyone else has found this problem and a solution, I'd like to know. Anyway, I hope this answer helps.

FAQ: My files are missing from Elements Organizer, or How to reconnect your images?

What is Elements Organizer?
The Elements Organizer can be used to arrange, codify, systemize, group, and classify your media. When you import your images and video into the Orgnizer, you are adding information about your files to a catalog. Your files remain on your hard drive where they were, unless you are importing them from a camera, in which case the files are copied to your hard drive to a location of your choosing.
What is an Elements Organizer catalog?
The catalog is a database that stores information about the files you've imported into Elements Organizer. When importing a file, the first thing Organizer does is collect the file's name and location on the hard drive. If the file has any attached compatible metadata, such as keyword tags, these are imported as well. You can use multiple catalogs and yourr catalogs can be carried forward from version to version.
Why does Elements Organizer say my files are missing?
Since the catalog database only stores information about your file, and not the file itself, if any of that information is changed outside of Elements Organizer, the connection to the file is lost. There are three ways this can happen: the file name is changed, the file location is changed, or the file has been deleted. If you need to rename, move, or delete a file, you can do so within the Elements Organizer, and then the connection is not lost.
What is Reconnecting?
When a file has been renamed, moved, or deleted, the catalog database needs to be updated with that new information. The Reconnection process allows you to point out a file's new name, it's new location, or to delete the database entry on your file if the file no longer exists on your hard drive.
Where can I learn more?
Managing Files in Elements Organizer
Get photos from files and folders
Importing photos from a digital camera
Import photos from a previous version
Moving files
Hiding and deleting photos
Managing Catalogs in Elements Organizer
Use Backup, Restore to move catalog | Organizer | Elements 6 or later
Troubleshoot catalog backup, upgrade | Organizer | Elements 6 or later
Freeze when you repair a catalog | Organizer | Elements 6 and later
Reconnecting Media in Elements Organizer
Reconnect missing files | Photoshop Elements | Windows
Can't edit, open, reconnect photos or media | Incorrect drive letter | Elements 6 or later Organizer | Windows

Anything besides reconnecting all the files, such as switching the drive letter (if that is even possible)?
The easiest way to fix this is to change the drive letter. Here are instructions for Windows 7: http://pcsupport.about.com/od/windows7/ht/change-drive-letters-windows-7.htm
To prevent this from happening again, you can change the drive to some very high letter, like X:, and then it should remain constant. In Lightroom, right-click on the top level folder ,and select Find Missing Folder, and then point it to your X: drive.
I know I can "Import---Add to catalog" all the photos from my external hard drive back into the catalog but I do have a question:
I won't address your question specifically, since re-importing is a very bad idea. A very bad idea. You will lose information that is not in the sidecar files, such as collection members, edit history, flags, virtual copies, stacks and a few other things. Just don't go there. Change the drive letters, as I explained.

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