Elements 10 - Thumbnail as hourglasses

I see you have answered this question for Elements 11, with Windows. I have Elements 10 with MacBookPro OS X Yosemite 10.10.2. Is the method for fixing this problem the same, or is there some other instructions?
Another problem. The Elements display page that come up does not sit low enough and is partly obscured by the Apple Information line that reads: First the Apple logo, and then Elements 10 Organizer.The basic remedies don't seem to work. Is there a way to bring down the page.?

queencole46 a écrit:
I see you have answered this question for Elements 11, with Windows. I have Elements 10 with MacBookPro OS X Yosemite 10.10.2. Is the method for fixing this problem the same, or is there some other instructions?
Same method.
Another problem. The Elements display page that come up does not sit low enough and is partly obscured by the Apple Information line that reads: First the Apple logo, and then Elements 10 Organizer.The basic remedies don't seem to work. Is there a way to bring down the page.?
I am not a Mac user, but maybe that will help you:
Stuck Windows in Photoshop Elements on a Mac | Barbara's Sort-of-Tech Blog
It's always better to start two different posts for different issues, there is less risk that one question gets ignored.

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Thumbnails are hourglasses

all thumbnails in pse 10/organize appear as hourglasses-how do I get thumbnail pictures to appear?

Wait for the all the Media Analyses to complete.
Increase the size of the thumbnails.
You can use Edit...Preferences...Media Analysis to turn it off.
Ken

Photoshop Elements 7 - Thumbnails

I loaded PSE 7 onto a new PC then did a recovery from the latest backup. The correct number of files loaded. The problem is that no thumbnails are shown. Whenever PSE is opened it shows 'generating thumbnails' however it quits doing this after a while. This had been going on for 4 days with no noticable results. The pictues can be viewed by clicking on them. Everything else, tags etc appear to be working ok....

Try deleting the thumbnail cache. Start by closing Elements and click the Windows start button >> Computer. Navigate to:
C:\ProgramData\Adobe\Elements Organizer\Catalogs\MyCatalog
Inside the My Catalog folder (or whatever name you gave your catalog) you should find a CACHE file:
thumb.5.cache
Highlight that file and delete it.
After deleting that file restart the elements Organizer and wait. It should regenerate a new set of thumbnails.

Elements 9 thumbnail visibility

I have been running elements 9 for two years now and in the last 3 months all photos loaded are only visibile in the thumbnail boxes when these are set to maximum size. ie all thumbnails appear empty unless at max size in which case the photo is visible. This has only affected the recent additions to my catalogue, all the older ones are visible irrespective of thumbnail size.
I have uninstalled and reinstalled Elements, rebuilt the catalouge to no avail. Anyone got a fix for this?
Fred

Try selecting the thumbnails (Shift+Click) or (Ctrl+A) to select all, then click on the top menu
Edit >> Update Thumbnail For Selected Items
If that doesn’t work close Elements and delete the thumbnail cache which sometime becomes corrupted. Navigate to:
C:\ProgramData\Adobe\Elements Organizer\Catalogs\MyCatalog
Inside the MyCatalog folder (or whatever name you gave your catalog) you should find a CACHE file:
thumb.5.cache
After deleting that file restart the elements Organizer and wait whilst it regenerates thumbnails.
N.B. The ProgramData folder is sometimes a system hidden file, in which case please follow these instructions before starting:
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-GB/windows-vista/Show-hidden-files

How do I set the thumbnail image of my videos that export to my computer? I'm using Premiere Elements 11 on a windows 8.1 PC 64bit.

How do I set the thumbnail image of my videos that export to my computer? I'm using Premiere Elements 11 on a windows 8.1 PC 64bit.
Or how does Premiere 11 determine where to set the image for the video it is exporting?
I already know how to use Freeze frame and save the image to my computer by Publish+Share/Computer/ Immage.
Thanks,
Mike

Mike
This is not Adobe. Rather user to user. We are all visitors here.
Just a bit of history....back in the days of Premiere Elements 4, you could set a "poster frame" in what was called the Project area. You did this by right clicking a blank area there and, from the drop down menu that appeared, selecting View/Preview Area, and using the poster frame feature there.
As I said, when a video imports into Premiere Elements, the thumbnail of the import has been presenting as the first frame of the video. With this Preview area "poster frame" option, you could set the video's thumbnail in the Project area so that the first frame was another frame in the video. But, this "perk" was restricted to thumbnails of the video in Project area.
If you exported to file with the first frame modified video, the export's thumbnail in Windows Explorer would present with other than the real first frame or the poster frame as the first frame.
Also, in more recent versions, I have observed that the export to file does not display the real first frame of the video in Windows Explorer. Seems random, but I have not kept track.
And, remember, at the onset I wrote
As far as I have ever seen, Premiere Elements Windows uses the first frame of the video for its thumbnail in the program.
I know of no way within Premiere Elements to control what the program opts to do in this matter. In some compatibility
issues, it opts to give no image but a generic one.
I did not say that you can expect to have the Premiere Elements' export file's thumbnail in Windows displaying with its real first frame. And, the more you get into this, depending on the versions, more details need to be added to my comment about "...first frame of video for its thumbnail in the program..."
I would have to look into all this further to get perspective on the contributing factors.
ATR
Add On...The Poster Frame feature appeared in versions 4, 7, 8, and 9 by my count.

Thumbnails in Elements 6 - OS Vista Home Premium

Just bought a new machine. Previously using XP on a 1.6Ghz machine with 1Gb memory. The new machine has faster processor (2.2Ghz), 4GB DDR2 and operates on vista. Photos are stored on an external hard drive. When I open Elements the thumbnails dont appear. When I reduce it to 1 thumbnail in the screen some of them show but very slowly. Bit of pain really because can only see one photo at a time.
Thanks
Phil

Hi thanks for the help but it didn't work. I then found the repair catalog function and it said there were errors in the thumbnail cache. Once it had repaired that the thumbnails appeared no problems.
thanks
phil

How do I convert the loading hourglass to thumbnails?

Lately all of my uploads are shown as uploading houglasses in the Elements 6 Organizer (show all. When I click on the hourglass the image comes up. This has been a problem for a few months now. Prior images are shown as thumbnails. Is there anyway I can fix this problem? Would appreciate any advice one could offer.
Thanks,
Stu Sporn

I reloaded Elements 8, found the CACHE file, deleted it, started Elements up again and still the last few months of image thumbnails remain hourglasses. Should I just live with this? I think I said that when I click on the thumbnail the image comes up and editing as usual. I really appreciate your help... do you work for Adobe?
I'm resistant to loading CS5 on because I'll loose that great catalog feature & will have to find things on the MB... stu
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So are you saying that when you navigate to the folder My Catalog1 it contains the PSEDB8 file but not the CACHE file?
So are you saying that when you navigate to the folder My Catalog1 it contains the PSEDB8 file but not the CACHE file?
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Editing with Photoshop Elements 4.0

I'm sure the problem and solution are simple, but I'm missing something. Here goes.
I'm using iPhoto 6.0.2. Just installed and started using Adobe Photoshop Elements 4.0. Have been editing about 1,100 photos from a recent trip to Africa, which were imported from my Canon. Wanted more editing tools, so stopped editing with iPhoto and started using PS Elements. So I open a photo from the iPhoto library using PS Elements. Let's say I open a photo from Roll 100, and call it the Monkey Photo. I edit the Monkey Photo in PS Elements, and then save (not save as, but save, using the same Monkey Photo file name). It saves the photo, but not back into Roll 100, but into a new Roll created somehow by the operating system, let's call it Roll 110, found in both the Originals and Modified folders (which seems odd).
Just like importing directly into iPhoto, when I save from PS Elements, a thumbnail is created, called a Preview. So now I have two thumbnails/previews, one from the original photo and one from the PS edited version.
So now I go to the Africa album in iPhoto. I double click on the thumbnail on the main screen to open Monkey Photo and I see a big gray blob with a large exclamation point in the middle. I go to the iPhoto library folders, and see that Monkey Photo is no longer in Roll 100, but now in Roll 110. But somehow iPhoto is not recognizing Monkey Photo in Roll 110 (and it's no longer in Roll 100, so as far as iPhoto is concerned, it doesn't exist...but it does).
So back to iPhoto. I click on View and switch to Roll view. Now I see Roll 100 and Roll 110. I click on Monkey Photo thumbnail in Roll 100, big gray blob, but click on Monkey Photo preview in Roll 110, and now I see Monkey Photo, in all his/her wonderfully edited colors from PS Elements.
How do I get the thumbnail in the iPhoto Library and the Africa album to work to recognize that Monkey Photo is now in a new roll? I did the rebuild stuff (control-option on opening iPhoto, click on first three choices, wait 30 minutes....nothing happened). I noticed the ColorSync profile was missing, and reinstalled it. Still the big gray blob following thumbnail clicking. I did a war dance. Still nothing.
What am I missing here? If you tell me that I have to recreate the Library, then the next noise you hear will be iPhoto disc being used as a frisbee and smashing into the neighbor's window.

Robert:L
Are you accessing that file from the Finder to open in PSE or are you using iPhoto's preferences to use PSE when you double click a thumbnail? The latter is the way it should be done. Then as long as you do not create a layered or otherwise edited file that required the psd extension nor change the file name, iPhoto will recognize the edit update the thumbnail accordingly. If you access those files from the Finder, open in PSE, edit and save, the thumbnail will not be updated but when you go to the edit mode you'll see the edits.
Go to iPhoto's preferences and under the General section select PSE under the Open photo with: menu.

No thumbnails in organizer 12 for any video file larger than 3,1 mb

I am running premiere Elements 12
Quicktime 7.7.5
Windows 7 service pack 1
Organizer will not show (or update) thumbnails from video files (.mts and .m4p) when file sizes are over 3.1 mb.
Organizer will play all the files. Element shows thumbnails and plays all the files.
Importing the files in the organizer or directly in Elements does not make a difference on the 'not showing' of the thumbnails.
MTS files are container for 1080i Pal (Sony AVCHD)
m4p files are are container for NTSC
Thumbnails for both files are not shown
Thumnails of files with very small file size for both formats are shown when the file size is less than 3,1 mb.
I found out about the file sizes when I check the metadata of the clips.
Anybody any Idea om what I should adjust to see all the thumbnails?
Thanks GN

geen nieuws
Just a longer add on to my post numbered 1.
What is the hard drive save location for your AVCHD.mp4 and AVCHD.mts files? If external hard drive, how is it formatted...NTFS or FAT32?
Also, what is the model of the Panasonic that is giving you the AVCHD.mts (assumed 1920 x 1080i25)? And what is the brand/model/settings for the camera that is giving you the AVCHD.mp4 (1080i30 or 1080p30 or other)?
It is the factor of file size that you describe for your issue that has me wondering if more than video codec is involved in your particular case.
Also, please clarify...three megabytes or thirty one megabytes? That looks like a comma in your "3,1 mb".
ATR

Missing thumbnail images for AVCHD files

I never had this problem before.
In the past I would import AVCHD (*.mt2s) video files to the oganizer using Premiere Elements 7.
Then I would open Photoshop Elements 7 and the video files I just imported in Premiere Elements 7 would display their thumbnails just fine.
NOW, these thumbnails do not display.
AVCHD files that I had previously imported still display their thumbnail, but any NEW AVCHD files do not display their thumbnail images; it just displays a default video thubmbnail graphic.
Furthermore, if I select "Update thumbnail" from the context menu of a previously imported AVCHD file with a thumbnail, then the thumbnail image goes away and siaplays the default graphic.
(PLEASE NOTE: when I click the default thumbnail image, it opens the video previewer successfully. So the answer is not that the video file is missing and therefore needs to be reconnected to regenerate the thumbnail image. So else is wrong here.)
How can I get the thumbnail feature to work properly? It works fine in Premiere Elements; the thumbnails images for both new and old imported files display just fine in that program, which is what I used to be able to see in Photoshop Elements. Why is PSE7 not displaying these video thumbnail images?

I have solved this issue myself a month or two ago and forgot to report my findings.
I alspo have a Canon HD camcorder so this was a major issue for me.
The way to resolve this issue (at least in my case) was to download a codec pack like k-lite. Do a google search for the codec pack or follow this link:
http://www.codecguide.com/download_kl.htm
When I installed the codec pack, I think I had to make sure M2TS files were selected within the installation wizard so just be aware of that.
Another way to resolve this issue is to upgrade to Windows 7. After I upgraded to Windows 7, I did not have to re-install the codec. I think Windows 7 has native support for AVCHD files.
I hope this helps. If it does, please report here if you encounter anything of note worthy since the details of this process are no longer fresh on my mind.

Elements Organizer video rotation

Hello,
some of my videos are aligned in the wrong direction. But if I open them with quicktime I do not need to rotate them - quicktime shows them correct.
So how do I change this in Elements Organizer. Or is there a way to use quicktime to play the videos?

Mark2801
How are these videos presenting in the Elements Organizer - landscape orientation when shot portrait or portrait orientation when shot landscape?
What version of Premiere Elements and Elements Organizer are you working with and on what computer operating system is the program running on?
Elements Organizer thumbnails are just that and these thumbnails trace back to originals saved to a computer hard drive location. What is orientation of the video as seen on the computer at the video hard drive save location?
Are these videos recorded with a cell phone? If so, how have you held the cell phone during the camera's video recording?
If you were to import these same videos directly into the Premiere Elements workspace, how do they present orientation-wise?
More later.
Looking forward to your follow up.
ATR

Premier Elements will not start (needs latest graphic drivers) and HP says I have the latest drivers

AMD says I don't have the latest, but I need to download the latest from HP - and HP says I have the latest.
Is my only option to return the Premier and Photoshop Elements 12?
Is there an alternate mode that allows Premier Elements to work with somewhat older drivers with some degradation in rendering speed?
Is Premier Elements only intended for the latest computers? My laptop is 1.5 years old.
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selrahcllah
Thanks for the update. Sorry for the delayed response...got detoured.
What is your situation with regard to working in the Premiere Elements 12 workspace Expert, Quick, Expert Guided, or Quick Guided? Are the displays and editing opportunities all functioning at this time?
As for the Elements Organizer thumbnail display of your video....how did you import that file into the Elements Organizer..
a. did you import the video via the Editor workspace and then let the video be automatically placed in the Elements Organizer
or
b. did you import the video in the Elements Organizer via the Elements Organizer's File Menu/Get Photos and Videos from...
What are the video and audio compressions and file extension for this video with the blank Elements Organizer thumbnail?
The first thing to try is deleting the video from Elements Organizer. Then importing the video into a Premiere Elements 12 Expert project to get it into the Elements Organizer by the automatic route.
Do not forget to right click the Elements Organizer thumbnail and select Update Thumbnail when you see the thumbnail blank (no trace of the first frame of the video).
I am trying these non-chip routes right now to get them rule in or out. We could add creating a new catalog and deleting the Elements Organizer setting file, but let us see how you do on the rest in this post.
From what you wrote, it sounded like Adobe Help took you a long way and got Premiere Elements 12 working, for everything but the Elements Organizer thumbnail playback. Give them another chance when it comes to the chips on this. Ask for a supervisor if necessary.
Based on your expected reply to the questions and suggestions above, I think it practical to pursue the above rather than switch to another program at this time.
What do you think?
We will be watching for your progress.
Thanks.
ATR

Mp4 kann nicht korrekt betrachtet werden in premiere elements

SOS, Leute. Da Premiere Elements meine .ts-Dateien nicht unterstützt, habe im dem vlc-Player alle Videos in .mp4-Videos konvertiert. Jetzt kann ich si e im Organiser aufnehme und betrachten, aber wenn ich sie in Premiere Elemets bearbeiten will oder in ein Projekt einbinden will, sehe ich (ohne Fehlermeldung) nur grünes Flackern über die gesamte Länge des Videos. was mache ich falsch??

Karl Diewald
I can get you a file that you can get into the Elements Organizer 12 and also import (with no flaws) into the Premiere Elements 12 Editor. But, it comes
with some workarounds...
1. Your original MPEG2.ts should be fully compatible with the Premiere Elements 12 Editor. But, I cannot take a MPEG2.ts into my Elements Organizer 12.
For that matter, I am finding a problem bringing any MPEG2 file into the Elements Organizer 12 whereas I am not having that problem with Elements Organizer 11, 10, or 9.
Solution 1. Just import the MPEG2.ts into Premiere Elements 12 Editor for your project there. No Elements Organizer thoughts.
2. I have found that I can produced a very good quality AVCHD.mp4 from the MPEG2.ts using Movie Maker 2012 in Windows 7, 8, or 8.1 64 bit.
I find that I can take this AVCHD.mp4 into Premiere Elements 12 with no problems. However I cannot take this AVCHD.mp4 into
Premiere Elements 12 Editor UNLESS I rename the file extension from .mp4 to .mov.
Solution 2. For goals in Premiere Elements 12 Editor and Elements Organizer 12, convert your .ts to .mp4 with Movie Maker 2012, change the name of the file extension from .mp4 to .mov, and then import the .mov into either Premiere Elements 12 or Elements Organizer 12 or both without problems.
3. Perhaps a step could be eliminated by converting the .ts to .mov directly with a program such as MPEG Streamclip.
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Elements Organizer 12 problems appear to go beyond the excuses of missing codecs. Still considering what to do with Elements Organizer 12 in
general. My old standby troubleshooting of deleting its settings file and creating a new catalog are not working...as well as the maneuver to rename
file extensions involved and right click the Elements Organizer thumbnail and select Update Thumbnail.
Please review and consider the above, and then let me know if any of the above worked for you.
Right now I am looking at your VLC ts to .mp4 conversion to try to determine what happened to you with it.
More later.
ATR
Add On...No matter what I do with your VLC H.264.mp4...the file imports into Premiere Elements 12 Edit with green or green cast video. I suspect
the problem is in the video codec that is being used. Changing the file extension from .mp4 to .mov here does not change the situation.

Format over catalog file, tried to recover file but now corrupt?!

I recently performed a format of my hard drive. When doing this, I did not back up my catalog file from photoshop elements(I have pse 8.0). I backed up everything else, and I do have all of the original full size photo files from my hard drive, ~11,000 image files which are now all put back to their exact same location on the hard drive as before the format. Horrible mistake on my part not to back this up, but I thought this info was stored in the individual photo files itself, but I know now that this info was in the catalog file that I more than likely have lost.
First off, following the format elements 8.0 was installed and all of my photos were migrated into elements(all thumbnails visible in organizer with no problems). Elements and the organizer worked perfectly fine, besides the fact that I had lost all of my tag and album info that was stored in the catalog file.
My husband purchased some file recovery software following the format of the hard drive to try and recover the catalog database file from the hard drive. The recovery software did find the file and was able to recover it from the partition of the hard drive that had been formatted over. Following the recovery of the file, he tried to move the file manually into the folder C:\program data\adobe\elements organizer\catalogs\my catalogs\. Doing this replaced the new catalog file that had been recently created by photoshops elements following the reformat with the one that was recovered by the recovery software. Next, he opened up Photoshop elements and tried to launch the organizer. Following this, we received the following message from organizer: “the catalog could not be opened, it is either corrupt, or the version is out of date and cannot be updated”. We then clicked on ok and then tried to hit the repair button, which it then told me that the catalog file could not be repaired. We also tried the File>Catalog> Open command in elements organizer to open the new catalog file and this gave me the same exact error message and same results.
We have also tried to run the psedbtool found on the web on the catalog file that was recovered by the recovery software. Unfortunately, the file is unreadable by the tool and the tool gives me the following message when trying to use the tool on the recovered catalog file: "can't open catalog database: file is encrypted or is not a database". I also tried the -csv file and -printVolumeTable options of the tool and it gives me the same message. Because I am getting this error message, it does not seem as if this tool will be able to help me with the recovered catalog database file.
Is my catalog file that I have recovered corrupt and unusable, or is there some way to get this file to work?
The recovery software I used if from Pareto Logic named "Data Recovery Pro". Could the problem be with the recovery software and maybe a different recovery software may do a better job of recovering the file?
Thnks for any help!

To make the story short, have you backed up your photos? If the answer is yes then why can't you create a new catalog and import the photos to this new catalog?
To create a new catalog, the basic process is:
1) Open the Organizer and click on File
2) Click Catalog
3) click New
4) Type a name for the new catalog
5) Click OK
Now it is a question of importing the photos to this new catalog. the basic process is as follows:
1) Open the Organizer and Click File
2) Click Get Photos & Videos
3) Click From Files and Folders
4) click "down-arrow" icon to choose the folder
5) CTRL+ Click on your photos to import (or CTRL + A to select all photos)
6) click Get Media
7) Click Show All to view your photos
Hope this gets you started. Your formatted hard drive will not let you get your old files so you are stuck. You should always make a habit to back-up your data on a flash drive because they are very robust and can be stored safely away from the computer you are working on. Your your machines own Hard Disk as a back-up store is definitively not a good strategy.

How to do a non flash slideshow in cs3 DW

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