Elements 11 backup

I am using Elements 11. My photos are on an external drive, not the C drive where the program resides. Can I backup my catalog to a second external hard drive. I was told by tech support while using Elements 10 that I would not be able to do a backup unless the photos where on the same drive as the software.

Bob 757 wrote:
I am using Elements 11. My photos are on an external drive, not the C drive where the program resides. Can I backup my catalog to a second external hard drive. I was told by tech support while using Elements 10 that I would not be able to do a backup unless the photos where on the same drive as the software.
Nonsense !
The catalog is like a list where the location of the files is stored : drive identification and full folder path. When PSE creates a backup it stores a copy of the catalog and of each picture file in a dedicated folder. Even if your pictures are spread over internal or external drive, USB thumbs, CDs or DVDs, the information about drives is saved.
On the other end, you can restore your files in the same location or elsewhere, for example in a new external drive.
The best rule is of course to store your backup in a different drive than your pictures.

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Hi and thanks in advance, I took my computer into a tech repair shop and they said they couldn't handle it but I needed to call Adobe.
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2. Using Adobe Elements 9.0 have never had a problem backing up onto an expansion drive.
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You could think about purchasing an external hard drive. They have now come down in price and often start with 1Tb or 2Tb of storage. Some even come with a fast fire wire connection for fast transfer.
Make a full back up (Ctrl+B in Organizer)
You can then make periodic incremental backups which will be much quicker.

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How do I prevent photshop elements 11 from freezing when backing up. It won't go past "Please wait while Elelments organizer prepares for backup.

Hi,
I should have replied back to this post after I found a solution that worked for me. After looking at many different options, including deleting all of my largest files, reinstalling photoshop, etc., I found that a few other people had success making a new catalog and then copying all the files into that. I did this and was then able to backup the new catalog with no issues. Weird. Adobe should really fix whatever causes this. It is very irritating. I would also make sure to write all the keyword tag info to the photos before you make a new catalog and make sure you are set with everything before you even think about deleting the first catalog.

PS Elements 5. Trouble restoring backup catalog - Organiser freezes

Old computer died and i re-installed PS Elements 5.0 on a Win8.1 machine. The first time instal indicated i was working on "My catalog". I ran a restore catalog function to restore my backup, original "John" catalog. The restore appeared to work ok i.e. the backup file *.tly was processed but my photos didn't show in Organiser. Have since uninstalled Elements 5.0 and reinstalled. On the new instal Organiser is looking for catalog "john" and just freezes. An explorer search cannot find "john" on the computer. How can I either reset my computer for a new clean instal so I end up with "my catalog" and can try a restore again OR how can i restore my "john" catalog without using Organiser. I have circa 6000 images which were/are catalogued. Any help appreciated as I don't want to have to tag/collection all of them again.

Hi,
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The pictures I have stored independently is the the 4500 number, while the pictures on the external hard drive in the Elements 6 catalog folder amounts to
about 7300. Why would that be
Some of the extra files should most probably be the breeze.xml files. These are created due to preprocessing of face data. I didn't quite get "duplicate pictures with different file numbers in the Elements backup" ?? . Do you mean they have numbers like -1 , -2 etc attached. If yes, then they exist mostly when you had ediited files present in Organizer. Since these are part of version sets in Organizer so theie count is not shown in Organizer but you see it in your backup.
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So does anybody out there have a way I can just restore the incremental catalog backup or use the files created to at least get my tags, categories etc back?
To restore the catlog, you will need to go to File>Restore catalog from ... , browse for the .tly file and hit restore.
Incremental backup comes into picture when you had taken the backup of catalog before. So next time, you make changes to catalog and wish to take a backup , you have the option for an incremental backup which backs up only the changes done in Organizer since the original backup was taken. Incremental backup builds on the original backup and hence its not allowed to overwrite the original.
Hope this helps. Thanks

Can't upgrade catalog from Elements 8 -thinks photos are on backup drive...

I've just bought LR3 (and upgraded to latest 3.2 release), and now I want to import all my photos from my Elements 5 collection (just over 10,000 photos - mostly RAW). All the photos are actually stored on a network share from my Windows Home Server machine, all accessible as \\home-server\photos\. Elements 5 has no problems with accessing them this way, and I can also access them fine from Lightroom, but I obviously want to retain all my keywording.
As there doesn't appear to be any way to upgrade a PSE5 catalog to LR3, I followed a recommendation I found on this forum (I think), and have downloaded a trial of PSE8. I have successfully upgraded a copy of the PSE5 catalog to PSE8 format, and then view them all in PSE8, so step one is a success. When I launched LR3, it then gave me a new option to upgrade an Elements catalog - this was a step forward. So, I took the option to upgrade the PSE8 catalog to LR, but after attempting it I see a window that says:
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The photos are most definitely not on "backup drives". I've never backed up photos from Elements (my backups are done separately from my Home Server). Lightroom can see the relevant shares, as I've imported a few photos directly onto that share from a card reader, and have also imported some photos on there in a "leave in place", but (as they are RAWs) I don't get any keywording this way.
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Thanks for that - that certainly agrees with my findings so far.
Do I take it you've had this confirmed by someone from Adobe then? Is it an intended limitation, or just an acknowledged bug?
I really hope it isn't an intended limitation, as it would mean that this high cost professional-targeted app (LR3) is not capable of something that the consumer level one (PSE8) does with ease. Surely it isn't that unusual to store your photos on a network drive.....
If this isn't likely to be fixed soon I guess I'll have to :
Backup (network drive based) photos and catalog
Use PSE8 to move the whole directory tree to internal hard drive
Upgrade PSE8 catalog in LR3
Use LR3 to move the whole directory tree back to the network drive
Not ideal, but it should get the job done...
Yes, confirmed by Adobe. It's a design limitation *of the PSE upgrader*. You can use LR3 to store images on a network drive, you just can't store the catalog there. I don't expect this to be fixed soon, so I'd go with the workaround if I were you.
I'm not storing my catalog on the network drive though, just my photos. Even with the catalog on an internal drive, LR3 still fails to upgrade any photos that are on a network drive.
I have though now spoken to a helpdesk chap at Adobe, and he has confirmed that Lightroom is not able to upgrade photos on a network drive. Seems like a really poor show to me, but I don't suppose I can do much about it...

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If you move files to external disk in PSE 7, are those files backed up when you Backup Catalog

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If you use incremental backups, how often should you do a full backup?
No hard-and-fast rule. The more incrementals there are, the longer it could take to do a restore. I suggest starting out doing a full backup every 10 incrementals.
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I also backup my backups to a 2nd external drive. Can I use PSE to do that 2nd backup (including the incremental backups) or do I need to copy the backup folders created the first time to a 2nd external disk using Win Explorer?
I think using Windows Explorer to copy them to the 2nd external drive will be easier and faster.
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I assume when moving to the new computer I just plug in the external drive containing the backup from the old computer (including incremental backup folders) and go through a normal restore.
Right.
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When I do a full backup, does PSE include the picture files stored on an external drive?
Yes.
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When I restore that backup to a new computer, does PSE restore the files which were on an external drive on the old computer to an external drive on the new computer, or would I have to move them from the new computer to an external drive again?
I think that if you select the Original Location restore option, it will restore them to the external drive, but I haven't tried that. You could make a small test catalog with a few photos and try it.

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Hello
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trouble finding my old Elements 6 install files so I decided to upgrade to Elements 9. Before the HDD died I did do a catalog
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asked for the location of the original .tly file. Unfortunately I couldn't locate it so the restore operation was aborted. I have
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Interestingly enough, there seems to be a lot of duplicate pictures with different file numbers in the Elements backup. The pictures I have stored
independently is the the 4500 number, while the pictures on the external hard drive in the Elements 6 catalog folder amounts to
about 7300. Why would that be? In theory shouldn't they be very close to the same number?
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experimental Elements catalog backups: the first was an original and the second I added a dozen pictures or so to the catalog and
tried an incremental backup. I chose the same folder for the incremental as I used for the original. I was asked if I would like
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quite good, I have to admit this whole process has put me off the Elements program quite abit. So if any of you know of a similar
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Hi,
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The pictures I have stored independently is the the 4500 number, while the pictures on the external hard drive in the Elements 6 catalog folder amounts to
about 7300. Why would that be
Some of the extra files should most probably be the breeze.xml files. These are created due to preprocessing of face data. I didn't quite get "duplicate pictures with different file numbers in the Elements backup" ?? . Do you mean they have numbers like -1 , -2 etc attached. If yes, then they exist mostly when you had ediited files present in Organizer. Since these are part of version sets in Organizer so theie count is not shown in Organizer but you see it in your backup.
function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}
So does anybody out there have a way I can just restore the incremental catalog backup or use the files created to at least get my tags, categories etc back?
To restore the catlog, you will need to go to File>Restore catalog from ... , browse for the .tly file and hit restore.
Incremental backup comes into picture when you had taken the backup of catalog before. So next time, you make changes to catalog and wish to take a backup , you have the option for an incremental backup which backs up only the changes done in Organizer since the original backup was taken. Incremental backup builds on the original backup and hence its not allowed to overwrite the original.
Hope this helps. Thanks

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Photoshop elements online storage

I do not want your online storage. I have my own backup solutions, and the last thing i need is another subscription fee to forget about. Every time I load Photoshop Elements, I am first confronted with a window telling me to buy more storage. I will NEVER buy your storage. This sales pitch is highly annoying and unprofessional.
My question is, how do I disable online storage? Somehow during the install process, Photoshop Elements chose to backup my pictures. It quickly hit the 2gb cap (google offers free 5gb, as does dropbox, and ubuntu ONE, and others I am sure). Now every time I start, I get a warning that my storage is full, and the only solution offered is for me to buy more storage.
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Don't. Run, not walk to the store where you bought 9 and get your money back. I
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NO BACK ARROW. This is a real nuisance. I look at one enlarged, and to go back, I have to slide the slider. UGH. WHY? 8 has a back arrow.
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So far, I haven't found anything that I want that 9 does that 8 doesn't. Perhaps a tech person will read this, tell me how to get the back arrow back, how to hid all those multiple scanned sheets, and why 9 is better than 8.
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I do love PE, but I hope my problems with 9 are just that I don't know how to use the program. But I have probably averaged an hour a day on PE for the last versions since 2003. I can't believe it's just that I don't know how to use the new one.

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