Elements 7 - Using Custoim ICC Profiles when Printing in Editor

I have downloaded some custom ICC profiles specific for some papers I use. They are there - I can select the profile printing from the organizer - Color Management>Print space - but they do not appear in the list of options if printing in Editor. Am I forced to print thru Organizer now?

>When you open the box in Editor>Print for the ICC profiles, the box doesn't scroll easily. You have to hold the left mouse button down as you scroll to see the entire list.
Try moving the Print window all the way to the left. If you have a small screen, move it further so that the left half of the Print window is off-screen. Then you should be able to see the scroll bar of the drop-down list of profiles.
This bug was identified in PSE 6, and I had thought it was fixed in PSE 7. But evidently not I was just able to reproduce it on my laptop.

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To recap:
1. profile/calibrate the monitor with an eye-one display 2
2. set the monitor profile to the new calibrated profile.
2.5 take a look at the soft proof. everything looks good.
3. make a print using the correct paper profile, lightroom or photoshop managing the color,
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5. fooling around, set the monitor profile to "Display". Those are the colors that show up on my print.
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The particulars: OSX 10.7.5, Photoshop CS6 13.0.4, Lightroom 4.4
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There are lots of colour spaces here!
The image has a colour space. If it's a jpeg it's probably sRGB or Adobe RGB. If it's raw, then it's in the colour space of the camera sensor (which is proprietary, and no use to anyone until it's been rendered by LR, ACR or whatever).
The editing program (LR or Photoshop) has a "working colour space". This is the working space the program does it's image manipulation in. For Photoshop you can choose, for LR it's always ProPhoto RGB (there's no choice). LR and Photoshop internally convert the image from the image's colour space to the working space for editing.
Then the monitor has a colour space. Assuming it's been calibrated and profiled (measured) by a hardware device (Spyder, Colormunki or whatever) then the monitor's colour space is described in the monitor profile.
Assuming the display profile is correctly set (in Windows control panel, color management) to the monitor's profile (which should be done automatically when you calibrate/profile your monitor) then both LR and Photoshop will automatically use the monitor profile when sending image data to the monitor. Both will automatically map (convert) the image from the working color space of the program to the colour space of the monitor. It just happens.
Provided:
The monitor is correctly calibrated and profiled (with a v2 profile if there's a choice, avoid v4 like the plague)
The default profile hasn't subsequently been altered in control panel
then LR will automatically colour manage correctly. There aren't any controls or options in LR to make it not colour manage correctly.
It's much easier to screw up on Photoshop as there are lots of settings you can get wrong in the "Color Settings" panel. So if there's a difference in colour between Lightroom and Photoshop it's virtually always a wrong setting in Photoshop, unless the monitor profile is incorrect.

How to get paper color profiles when printing from Acrobat

Hello,
I've been in trouble trying to print with specific paper profiles from Acrobat.
I'm running on mac os 10.8.5, and the latest version of the suite (Acrobat XI).
My printer is an Epson 3880.
I can print ok using my paper profiles when I'm printing from Photoshop; the paper profils show up in the printer box,
and I can choose from my different paper profiles, some of which I've installed recently, non-Epson papers.
But those paper profiles don't show up in the menu when I print from Acrobat…
Any hints why I can't reach those?
Thanks in advance for any help,
Keth.

Are you talking about the color profiles? If so then:
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To chabge profile of any image you can change it from Image menu.
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I try to automate my printing procedure in photoshop. The problem is that I don't know how to select the printer and select the icc profile for printing with vbscript like I manually do in the print-menu in photoshop?
Anyone has done this before?
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Client/Server version:
- D2KWUTIL.PLL library provides a 'Select Printer' dialog box to be used in Forms: WIN_API_DIALOG.SELECT_PRINTER
http://guenter-huerkamp.dyndns.org/oracle-doc/docs/html/d2kwutil.html
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I calibrate my screen with a Huey Pantone unit.
I upload the pics to Iphoto.
I adjust the pics to look great on my screen.
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I know that professional photographers use photoshop to get great prints from Costco but that is not in my budget.
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1 - iPhoto is a consumer level program designed around point and shoot digital cameras - it does support RAW but if you want to do LOTS with RAW then you need an appropriate program - like aperture for one
2 - You may want to look at PhotoShop Elements which does almost all that PS does for a lot less money
3 - you also may find that updating your software will assist - iPhoto 6 is at least 3 or 4 years old now - there have been two major new versions since it was released
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PSD Colour Preference & icc profile for Print and Web projects?

Using the same Photoshop files for Web- and (4c) printed media projects
i wonder if these settings are suitable to enable a good range
for both -
may you please let me know ?
i look forward to any feedback,
thanks a lot in advance!
---- please visit
http://img35.imageshack.us/f/psdwebprint.jpg/
http://img35.imageshack.us/f/psdwebprint.jpg/for a screenshot of these settings ---
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... via
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Profile Mismatch - checked/active Ask when Opening
CONVERSION OPTIONS
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checked/active Use Dither ...
checked/active Compensate for scene ...
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unchecked/ Not active Blend RGB ... 1.00%
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... via
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Cannot see ICC profile when Proofing ?

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I am trying to get a ICC profile to appear as 'Device to Simulate when soft proofing in CS3. This ICC file is from Adoramapix.com, to simulate their printers. When I drop down the list of 'Devices,' there is a older Adoramapix prifile, but I can't seem to get rid of it or remember how I added it?.I have already right clicked on the ICC and selected 'Install Profile.' Not really sure what I was doing, but I also tried to add it under Display Properties>Advanced>Color Management. But I would get an error 'This is a printer profile which cannot be associated with this monitor.' I do have a canon printer at home, but never use it for printing photos.
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Once you are happy with your settings and your proof, click the button (under the histogram) to save a proof copy. That will automatically create a virtual copy, next to your original in the library. In the information strip above the filmstrip it will have the profile name attached to the file name e.g. IMG_1234.dng/sRGB. It will also show on the thumbnail.

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Loading icc profiles for printing

HI,
I am very new to Macs. I have now overcome the problems with the new printer drivers and using them with Leopard. I am using an Epson R1800 printer and want to load specific paper profiles. I have downloaded several icc files and wanted to know how to install them.
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CS5 crashes when I try to load "other profiles" when printing

I'm using a Canon Pro 9000 printer. I read somewhere that you cannot turn off Printer Manages Colors however if you choose Printer Manages Color, then Color Matching (ColorSync checked) and then load your your icc it will match. I see the Canon Profiles and then at the bottom "Other Profiles". As I have Red River profiles I want to load one however each time I drop down and highlight "Other Profiles" CS5 crashes.

In recent printer drivers, choosing "Photoshop Manages Color" will automatically disable the printer driver color controls.
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The 9500 is a little better than the 9000, but both are now a bit out of date. (I think Epson is now 4 models beyond the 9500)
MacOS 10.6.x comes with newer printer drivers than 10.5 (and I hope you're on 10.5.8).

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