Elements Organizer doesn't organize by AVI datecode

Can anyone tell me how to get Element's Organizer to use an .avi file datecode instead of it's "date created" property? I've confirmed the datecode is correct with a freeware program called DVdate. I'm using the Elements Organizer that came with Premiere Elements 8.0. Thanks for any help.

Unfortunately, there is no way that I know of to do this. Sorry.
You may want to look into a program called DVDate, which does make this type of metadata available on footage from miniDV and, I believe, HDV camcorder footage.

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Next I double click the thumbnail and got playback of the video in the Elements Organizer 12 without issue.
Next I right clicked the thumbnail and selected Update Thumbnail. It did within a few seconds. The thumbnail then displayed the first frame of the video.
I ran this test on a laptop with Windows 8.1 64 bit computer operating system. Installed on this computer along with Premiere Elements 12...QuickTime latest version, iTunes latest version, a PowerDVD player. Windows Media Player 12 appeared to be there but not yet activated. No VLC player or other.
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Hi ATR,
Thanks for providing a pointer to something to try. Here's what I did:
Using one of those files as a test, I deleted the file from the catalog (but not the hard disk, of course)
In Windows Explorer, I changed the filename extension to one of the ones suggested
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