Emac 1ghz Can't Install Pather or Tiger...

I have a 1ghz Emac with a 40gb drive and I can't seem to install any new OS - Tiger or Panther.
I have booted with either the Tiger or Panther disc used Disk Utility to verify the internal 40gb drive, erased it and wrote zeros. The drive seemed to be great. If I try to install either OS though, I get and error. Something like "There were errors, try to install again"
Also, just to point out - I have used Carbon Copy Cloner to copy a working Tiger install over to it and that has worked but only for so long. Eventually the drive stops booting. -It has passed the S.M.A.R.T. diagnosis too.
Any one run into this? I have been a Mac geeks since the early 90s and nothing has confused me this much before.
Thanks much for any help.
-David

Eventually the drive stops booting
Why would that be with a good clone? Have you run a surface scan with a utility like TechToolPro? It's possible there are bad blocks that are not being masked out when writing zeros or some other physical drive damage. S.M.A.R.T will not detect bad blocks unless they are about to create a drive failure.
EDIT: Also Javier's suggestion abou ram is a good one, you can use this utility:
http://macupdate.com/info.php/id/14004

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Hello,
I would like to ask if you can install Tiger onto a hard drive that already has data files on it. I have a 250 GIG hard drive and it already has 10 GIGs of data on it. Can I install Tiger on this drive or might it corrupt my files?
Its a long story but here is a quick summary of why I am attempting to do this:
I have a 350 MHz Blue and white G3 (rev 1) with two hard drives: the original 12 GIG ATA drive and a 250 GIG SATA drive (internal) connected with a 1S2 Seritek SATA controller.
My 250 GIG drive has two partitions but only one is available to Tiger. You see, by accident I originally formatted my 250 GIG drive with an extremely small partion (32 Megs). I meant to type "30 GIGs" and by accident I typed "30 Megs". Oops That was supposed to be my OSX 10.4 volume. Its too late now - its too small. So I only have two choices for a place for TIger: my 12 GIG drive or the other partition of my 250 GIG drive. I am reluctant to choose my 12 GIG drive because it already has an older OS on it (OS 8.6).
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Is it safe to install Tiger onto this partition with my data files? Or is the possibility it might do something to my data.
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When you format a disk in Tiger are there options to "low level format" or "zero all data" or will just a straight "erase" do the job sufficiently? I bought my 250 GIG Hitachi SATA drive new and so I am not sure if it worth the time to re-erase it with "zero all data" (if that is an option in the Tiger Disk Utility). What is the best formatting option to prepare this drive in the most beneficial for Tiger?
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Thanks scb and Jeff,
Jeff, you have me thinking now. I think I will be safe and try another idea. I have a 4 GIG internal SCSI drive I could use to backup my data in 4 GIG sections at a time via my Adaptec 2430 SCSI card. I could then move this hard drive over to my other G3 onto its 40 GIG hard drive. This would be done three times to take off all my data and essentially provide a backup before I install Tiger. Good idea. You are right. It is better to play it safe.
By the way 8.6 can handle HFS+. And yes, I should eventually buy an external drive solution - probably an enclosure. I saw one called "coolmax" [1]. It could hold a SATA drive and it had USB, firewire and also an external SATA port.
And also Jef thanks for the info about formatting drives. I am glad to hear it is not important to zero all data if you don't have to. I am not concerned about havig anything to hide and so yes, I will just click "format" - that should be fine. Zero all data takes such a long time and I would rather avoid using it if I don't need this feature. Thanks for the advice.
Thanks for the new safer direction.
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Yes you can run 10.4 on your dual 500, I have a dual 450 (I overclocked it to 550...) and it runs pretty fast. You need a minimum 192 MB of RAM to install it and a minimum 128 MB of RAM to run it. I would suggest having at least 512 MB of RAM when running 10.4.
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