Employees Salary without Time Management sub-module?

Dear Consultants,
Where to record employees attendance/absences (time related information) inorder to pay the salary through SAP-HR Payroll? We are implementing PA and Payroll (International). Time Management is not in the scope of the project.
Could you please let me know, how can we handle this without Time Management. What would be the limitations without Time Management sub-module.
Thank you all for your efforts.
Edited by: Business Analyst - HCM on May 20, 2009 2:20 PM

You have to create atleast the work schedule which will consist of DWS and PSW and then work scheedule rule. Also I think you will require to configure feature SCHKZ to default work schedule rule in IT0007.
After doing this configuration you can create wagetypes related to ur time and you can pay these wage types through IT2010 ee remuneration info
if the wt will have rate then that rate you can maintain in T510 and may be to meet the complete requirement you need to write little bit code in CATS exit.
otherwise you will be able to pay through 2010 and you can enter the data thru CAT2 tcode. Just you need to create a profile and set the view for entering the data like single entry or mass entry.
SPRO->IMG->Cross-Application Components->Time Sheet->Specific Settings for CATS Regular->CATS Regular->Record Working Time
hope this will help
guds

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is it posiable implement Payroll without Time manage ment ? if yes while performing action ( PA40 ) what we hve have to mention in worke schdule..
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Yes, it is possible to run PY without TM. But workschedule must be filled and choose time management status 7 - without Payroll Integration.
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Can anyone please tell me how will be the functionlity of SAP HCM will be effected if we have implemented SAP HR without Time Management.
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There are no adverse effects as such if time management not implemented.
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Hi Team,
_My first question:_
Kindly can you let me know how does the data go and get process in Payroll apart from the below points?
I would like to share with you my knowledge on it.
Integration between IT0007 and IT0008-Capacity utilization
After running Time evaluation Time results will get procerssed in Payroll through cluster B2.
In the payroll schema XT00 is the sub schema where Payroll takes the Time data and process in Payroll.
_My second question_
Does XT00 reads cluster B2?
_My third question_
Whether TC:PT60/Report :RPTQTA00 is used to generate quotas?
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I see that in both ways they can be generated.But let me know in what cases we use PT60 and RPTQTA00.
_My fourth question_
How can we carry forward the balance quota of the previous year to the next year with specific validity dates ?
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Team sorry for such a long questionnaire .Kindly help me in getting answer and clarity on the above questions.
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Edited by: Vimal Kumar on Sep 21, 2009 4:55 PM
Edited by: Vimal Kumar on Sep 21, 2009 5:02 PM

Hi,
Q1:Kindly can you let me know how does the data go and get process in Payroll apart from the below points?
A1:Time evaluation integration with payroll: just as you said, but if no time eavluation run for some days in the payroll period, TC00 will be perform to run time data processing in payroll without B2 written.
Without time evaluation: sub schema TC00 will be performed to run time data processing in payroll without B2 written.
Q2:Does XT00 reads cluster B2?
A2: Yes, but depends on time management status of infotype 0007(time evaluation inte. with payroll)
Q3:Whether TC:PT60/Report :RPTQTA00 is used to generate quotas?
A3: Yes, both can generate quotas. For some simple case, or not implement time evaluation or have nothing to do with time type, you should use RPTQTA00. But for some special case, or time quota gen. with time types, you should use PT60.
Example:
case 1:Total 12 days one year, but 1 day increased each month, you should use PT60 to generate montly and increase.
case 2:Overtime transfer to leave: you should use PT60, because it relates to time type (overtime)
case 3:12 days one year, accrual at the beginning of year, you should use PT60 if you do not implement time evaluation.
Q4:How can we carry forward the balance quota of the previous year to the next year with specific validity dates ?
And also how can we carryforward only certain no.of quota ?
A4:We can use time evaluation and write some PCR to achieve or just simple to set the validity dates and deduction priority.
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Dear All,
when do we go about Time Management Status - 7 - without Payroll Integration.
In this case how the process goes on SAP. what do we do in this status. do we record employees attendances in 2002 IT
actually what happens.
Regards
kvn

Hi KVN,
You are using time management status 7 which means that no integration to payroll.Now as far as ur Quotas are considered then please use RPTQTA00 which is just a program and RPTIME00 or PT60 which will run time evaluation and if u want your Quotas to generate in time evaluation then just change V_556A_B in this table to increase so with time evaluation and no generation for Quotas to be with time evaluation.
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My query is how will the system behave now with time management status value as 0? Can we process absence quotas? What is the use of work schedules, in this context, as any way the system does not evaluate employee time in Time Management. Neither the time wage types are evaluted in Payroll, as SAP Payroll is not implemented.
-Shambhvi

My thanks to all of you. I would like to summarize the answer for my query:
Since time management status = 0, there won't be any time evaluation, which means attendance and absence data, even if entered won't be evaluated in Time Management. Since Payroll is not implemented, the question of time data getting evaluated in Payroll does not exist. However, absence quotas can be maintained, irrespective of the value of time managment status.
Please correct me, if my understanding is wrong
-Shambhvi

UNABLE TO GET SALARY BASED ON HOURS ( POSITVE TIME MANAGMENT )

Hi Vivek,
Your document was great.
I am implementing positive time management and at present i am entering the clock in and clock-out in IT-2011 manually for testing and when i run PT60 using TM00 schema it was not showing any errors but data in 'ZL' it was showing as no entries.
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Could you please provide the steps for end to end implementation on time management module in SAP HR?

You have to create atleast the work schedule which will consist of DWS and PSW and then work scheedule rule. Also I think you will require to configure feature SCHKZ to default work schedule rule in IT0007.
After doing this configuration you can create wagetypes related to ur time and you can pay these wage types through IT2010 ee remuneration info
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otherwise you will be able to pay through 2010 and you can enter the data thru CAT2 tcode. Just you need to create a profile and set the view for entering the data like single entry or mass entry.
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hope this will help
guds

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1. As a consultant I have to suggest my client whether they should go for interface between sap and eternal recording system or not... What you guys suggest which one is better.
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