Empties Management

Hi Experts,
Can any one help me by sending a document which explains about the "Configuration Settings" as well as "Business Process" about "Empties Management" which is a new functionality in ECC 6.0 Version.
Thanks in Advance
G G Prasad.

Hi People,
This documentation is the one regarding Beverage Industry Solution, so it does not document exactly the standard ERP functionality regarding empties management in ECC.
Example: It says BOM type 7 are used, but this is for Beverage Industry Solution.
In the standard SAP ERP system, the BOM type 5 is used for Empties (in SD since ERP 5.0 and also in MM since ERP 6.0).
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_erp60_sp/helpdata/en/4a/ac853478616434e10000009b38f83b/frameset.htm
is the right resource.
Regards,
Franck

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http://help.sap.com/search/highlightContent.jsp
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