Empty packaging material return
Hi,
We are working in a beer manufacturing industry....here manufactured beer is packed in to three types of packaging...
1. Can
2. Bottle
3. Keg...
So basically we have three finished codes..each finished material is having in the BOM components as bulk beer and other packaging materials like CAN, Bottle, keg.... now filled finished product sales is done...after sales then after some time they return the empty containers like bottle and Keg to plant..which are used again for re filling.... for this return they are paid money... now how to map this in to SAP....
what we proposed is when the empty packaging material comes make a manual purchase order with packaging material code and qty then do GR with 101 movement..then subsequently make the payment against the PO.....
is this the correct solution???..can somebody share ur previous experiences who worked on this scenario...is there any SAP best practices available for this scenario ???...
Thanks
Kumar
I think this situation can be handled by Returnable Packaging - Sales.
I haven't worked with returnable packaging, But I can assume your business process goes to returnable packaging.
Read the SAP help, if your business process is different, then you can elaborate.
Regards
Dev
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Then we send packaging material back to vendor.But this process is mannual.
Now we want this process by system.
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With Regards
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I hope you are looking for packaging instruction for vendor.
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Greetings!
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Sending back the RTP material to Vendor
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Teh above documents contains screenshots, you can send your mail id to my mail id. I can send it teh Doc file.
My id is
[email protected]
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Guru ,
i have done GR for a material with a packaging material which consistutes a handling unit .
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when i did GRN , maetrial is shown in the storage location . fine .
where is the packaging material along the material gone . NO trace of it .
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I assume your basic settings for handling units are ok (e.g. item category group settings in material master for packmat and to-be-packed material - e.g. MARA-VHART, MVKE-MTPOS, MARA-MAGRV).
What you have to do:
- SPRO > LE > SHipping > Deliveries > Define Item Category Determination for Deliveries - here you have to set: "Delivery type"-"Item category group"-"Usage"-"item category high level item"-Item category" combination (e.g.: LF-LEIH-PACK-<empty>-DLN)
- SPRO > LE > Shipping > Pack > Define Packaging Material Types - here you have to maintain Plant determination for HU" field for your packmat ("Plant proposed from the first item that was packed).
Please also ensure whether generation of packaging material type is allowed for the delivery type you use: SPRO > LE > Shipping > Deliveries > Delivery Type - here set "Gen. pack. matl. item"
If these settingsare ok > create the delivery in VL01N > pack the main item (VL02N > (menu) Edit > Pack). Whe you go back to overview you should see the newly generated item for your packaging material.
If you want the packaging material item automatically generated when you create the delivery, you have to:
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Movement type for customer supplied packing material returns
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Rajeshhi,
this is to inform you that,
if customer is supplying the packaging material to us receive it through 501 - M and Issue 502 - M, manually if you want to track the packing material wise take the material into NON VALUATED ITEM.
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Question about packaging material
Hello all,
i have encountered an interesting problem.
I create an order with material r-1150 qty = 10.
and in delivery i used 2 packaging material, each for 5 pc.
1. PK-100
2. PK-095,
thus 2 HUs are created
however only PK-095 can be displayed in delivery item list ( together with Material r-1150) .the PK-100 is missing.
and in the following TO, by picking , i can also only confirm the material and PK-095. and the material qty = 10 .
then I tried to package with only pk-100, and it is still missing from the delivery item list.
one thing more weird is , if i change manually in Picking the pk-100 to pk-095, even Pk-095 wont be displayed. Only when I empty the box, and delete the HU and create a new HU with Pk-095, then it could be displayed.
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thanks!
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first, thanx for ur answer,
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In the first 1. example
In the delivery, I packed the qty 10 into 2 different packaging material
1. PK-100 ---- 5 pc
2. PK-095 ---- 5 pc.
but in the item list of delivery, i can only see PK-095, and the following TO, I can pick the total 10 pc and PK-095
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I only use PK-100 to pack in delivery, but still missing in the item list. That means only my 10 pc product is there.
see attached file
in my example 3
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Packaging material (VERP) to be sold to customer
Hello,
We have a requirement where a packaging material needs to be sold to the end customer. Normally these are processed with IC TAL for returnable packaging, however in this case IC Tan will need to be used with a customer price attached.
Are there any other issues which we might run into which needs to be addressed ?
Thanks,
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Item category group is VERP
General item category is LEIH
LAN for returnable packaging pickup
LNN for returnable packaging issue
Material group = 00804
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Go back and do the picking and PGI
Save and Exit
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Go to VF01 and raise the Invoice.
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Including packaging material automatically in inventory and purchasing
Hi,
We are in the Utility industry.
We are introducing the concept of packaging or returnable materials. As such, when cables are purchased, large reels will also be received.
The reels are at no value, but must be always added when cable is purchased, since when returned (reels), credits will be applied.
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