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See below, the forum won't let me delete accidental posts evidently.Message Edited by 7fpsman on 0-23-200707:29 PM

Just a note: I'm using a real 2. speaker system with a crossover network in the subwoofer. I think this is an "industry practice," which is why Creative hasn't had enough demand to provide the crossover network function for them. When separate speakers are used, they need an amp, and an amp with the necessary bass management functions is the normal solution. Put another way, can you cite another <i>stereo</i> source, i.e. tuner, CD player, etc., that has a subwoofer output?
-Dave
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This problems causing that I starting to think about some other sound card from other producent...because that can't be Message Edited by FPPfan on 02-0-2005 08:52 PM

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