Encoding a Premiere project with WME

I have an evolving project that I have been able to export audio and video separately (AVI and WAV) then to encode with Windows Media Encoder with good results quite a few times.
Then, suddently - and although I have been able to export to DVD succesfully, with no other changes I tried to encode the AVI and WAV again, and the output will never play ! It stops immediately on the first screen, then move to another still image about every 10 seconds. No sound, no rolling video. If I play the assets that serve as inputs, both the AVI and WAV files play correctly, - so I assume the assets (sources) entered in WME are correct.
This was with the x64 version of WME on Vista x64. I installed the XP version of WME and tried to encode under XP (same files). Result : I get a video without sound. I used the advice I got in this forum from someone to make sure I was using 44.1 and not 48 on the audio with WME, in both trials.
Once again, I don't think I've done things differently : I have done 3 or 4 versions of this same project before with WME and it worked. I have tried to figure out what I could have set differently but can't see.
Any insights ?
Thanks,
Rob
- yeah, not too succesful these last two days with my exports and encoding...

Last time I tried that, I was not even able to start encoding - receiving an error message from Adobe Media Encoder - which is what led someone in this forum to suggest to download and install WME, which worked then with the same edit of the project. Now I get all the process going on (with WME), no error message, but as explained : under Vista x64 the final output won't play, and under XP, it will but with no sound.
What's funny now is that I can encode with H.264 (with Adobe MEdia Encoder), it plays out of sync on my Quick Time, but once uploaded to You Tube, it is perfectly synchronized.
I read something on another forum about this syncing problem suggesting to downgrade Quick Time (which I haven't tried yet) - apparently a suggestion by Adobe.
Rob

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