Encore CS5.1 Blu-ray Replication Problem - Master Failed BDA Compliance Testing

I've authored a Blu-ray in Encore 5.1
I purchased and used BluStreak Tracer with Export BDCMF
I sent the BDCMF to Cinram for duplication.
From Cinram I received "Master Failed BDA Compliance Testing"
The specific error is:
Verifier: Sony BD-ROM Verifier for FS and AV
Version: Version 2.04 Build 0049
Compliance: ERRORS DETECTED
Errors: 1
Warnings: 0
INPUT INFORMATION:
Source: DISC IMAGE
Type: BD25
Layer 0 Logical Sector count: 9008416
Path: Z:\01 TO_BE_BD_AACS_PROCESSED\SA_BPVZBG1001.1.A\Lovers Exile BDCMF\UD.DAT
ERROR INFORMATION:
   Code: ES1711: Dolby Digital (AC-3) and Dolby Digital Plus audio streams
   Summary: The bsid field is not set to 1000b (8), or 110b (6). (See BD-ROM Part 3-1,
            9.9.4)
How may I fix this problem? How do I get Enocre to set the bsid field to where the specs require it?
Are there any other work arounds to this particular problem as I am in a bit of spot because my client wants to distribute this fine disc we have created and Cinram will not because the Encore authoring does not appear to be conforming to the official specifications? A fair bit of money is on the line.

Finally made it throug to tech support and they created a case number and they will call me when they have a solution. I'm not holding my breath. In the meantime I've got to find a solution.
The audio is encoded in the m2ts file so I’ve got to do the audio and video together. I’m considering re-encoding via Encore but using H264 instead of mpeg but I’m not sure what audio encoding options are available as of yet if I go that route.
I’m first trying to establish the tools (mediainfo run in cli) to be able to evaluate what BSID is spit out.
Another option I’m exploring is to re-render the m2ts files output by Encore (located in the stream dir) in Sony Vegas and see if they conform to BDA spec. I’d then have to replace the files in the Stream dir and wash it through BluStreak tracer but I’m not confident it will compile the CMF properly doing it that way.
A third option is to encode all the video via vegas, replace the footage in encore with the pre-encoded stuff (telling encore not to transcode it). I'm not sure if I can do this in Encore though.
Again, first step is to get the tools to “see” the problem.
Any advice is appreciated!
James

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