Encore CS5 transcode terrible quality

Hopefully someone can guide me to getting better quality from a CS5 DVD.
Source video is high def footage from Canon HFM41 camcorder.  I edit in Pinnacle Studio on a PC.  In the case of this project, the end video is 36 minutes in length.  I output to a 1080i MPEG2 file, even though for the time being I will only be making a standard DVD, someday I may want to take the same file and make a Blu-Ray disc.
In Encore CS5(Mac), I import the file as a timeline.  I add a main menu, 7 submenu pages for the 37 chapters, and a 2nd audio track.
Since it is only 36 minutes, I should be able to get max quality on a DVD.  For transcoding, I choose Automatic, and Max Render Quality.  But when I watch the final DVD, any scenes of action look terrible.  I've tried many different transcode settings such as DV High Quality 7MB 2 pass VBR, and I even tried copying this preset to a "DV High Quality 8MB 2 pass VBR".  No big improvement in quality.  Sometimes the transcoding took 8 hours on a 3 year old iMac i5.  Very frustrating, especially when I can burn a DVD right out of Pinnacle Studio, and the quality is outstanding.
Can anyone give me the settings I need in CS5 to get the max quality for a 36 minute DVD?
My next step would be to output 2 files from Studio, the 1080i MPEG2 AND a standard DVD MPEG2 file.  Then import the DVD file into Encore.  But shouldn't a professional level program such as Encore be able to do better encoding than a $99 consumer package such as Pinnacle Studio.
Thanks in advance for any help or suggestions.

Stan, I did a little testing last night as follows.
I took a one minute segment of some beach volleyball that was showing poor quality on my initial DVD from Pinnacle Studio, and exported this 4 different ways
1) MPEG2 DVD Quality
2) MPEG2 1080i (same as my original 37 minute problem video)
3) AVCHD HD 1080
4) MP4 1080
I imported these one at a time into Encore, encoded as DV HQ 8MB CBR (except the DVD Quality file which did not need transcoding).  I burned a DVD for each.  The results all looked pretty good and pretty much the same between all 4 discs.  The MPEG2 1080i disc didn't show the same poor quality that my iniitial 37 minute video did, even though they were exported from Pinnacle with the same settings.  So then overnight, I tried re-transcoding the original 37 minute MPEG2 1080i file using the same DV HQ 8MB CBR from Encore and burning the disc.  This morning before leaving for work, I popped the DVD in and went to the volleyball clip, and it looked terrible during the fast action, same as before.
So I am a bit perplexed by this.  The only thing I can think is that because the 37 minute project has much more data in the project, and the MPEG2 1080i video file is about 7.2GB, maybe Encore is not allowing the same data rate. even though I told it to use the same transcode setting than the test using the 1 minute clip.
Not sure where to go from here, but I have exhausted so many 9-hour long transcode settings, and my project is way overdue.  I would really like to know what settings to use from Pinnacle as well as Encore so that I can save off the highest quality file from Pinnacle that will allow me the highest quality in Encore so that in the future if I ever want to go back and  re-export the project as Blu-Ray or something else, that I have the files I need.  I guess I will just make the DVD with the MPEG2 DVD quality export file, and just save off the Pinnacle Studio export in all 4 formats shown above, not knowing which one will be needed in the future.
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    I'm using Dynamic Link ( I also tried with a rendered .mkv file of the project)
    4 menus: Main, Setlist, Setlist2, Credits
    1 popmenu
    audio for menus are high quality mp3s
    OS Name    Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate
    Version    6.1.7601 Service Pack 1 Build 7601
    System Type    x64-based PC
    Processor    Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2600K CPU @ 3.40GHz, 3401 Mhz, 4 Core(s), 8 Logical Processor(s)
    BIOS Version/Date    American Megatrends Inc. 0501, 5/9/2011
    SMBIOS Version    2.6
    Installed Physical Memory (RAM)    8.00 GB
    Total Physical Memory    7.98 GB
    Available Physical Memory    2.01 GB
    Total Virtual Memory    16.0 GB
    Available Virtual Memory    7.86 GB
    Page File Space    7.98 GB
    files info:
    General
    ID                                       : 255 (0xFF)
    Complete name                            : A:\Napalm Death.m2t
    Format                                   : MPEG-TS
    Commercial name                          : HDV 1080i
    File size                                : 9.39 GiB
    Duration                                 : 49mn 48s
    Start time                               : UTC 2011-10-14 22:10:51
    End time                                 : UTC 2011-10-14 23:00:29
    Overall bit rate                         : 27.0 Mbps
    Maximum Overall bit rate                 : 33.0 Mbps
    Encoded date                             : UTC 2011-10-14 22:10:51
    Video
    ID                                       : 2064 (0x810)
    Menu ID                                  : 100 (0x64)
    Format                                   : MPEG Video
    Commercial name                          : HDV 1080i
    Format version                           : Version 2
    Format profile                           : Main@High 1440
    Format settings, BVOP                    : Yes
    Format settings, Matrix                  : Custom
    Format settings, GOP                     : M=3, N=15
    Codec ID                                 : 2
    Duration                                 : 49mn 48s
    Bit rate                                 : 25.3 Mbps
    Maximum bit rate                         : 25.0 Mbps
    Width                                    : 1 440 pixels
    Height                                   : 1 080 pixels
    Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
    Frame rate                               : 29.970 fps
    Standard                                 : Component
    Color space                              : YUV
    Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0
    Bit depth                                : 8 bits
    Scan type                                : Interlaced
    Scan order                               : Top Field First
    Compression mode                         : Lossy
    Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.542
    Stream size                              : 8.79 GiB (94%)
    Color primaries                          : BT.709
    Transfer characteristics                 : BT.709
    Matrix coefficients                      : BT.709
    Audio
    ID                                       : 2068 (0x814)
    Menu ID                                  : 100 (0x64)
    Format                                   : MPEG Audio
    Format version                           : Version 1
    Format profile                           : Layer 2
    Codec ID                                 : 3
    Duration                                 : 49mn 47s
    Bit rate mode                            : Constant
    Bit rate                                 : 384 Kbps
    Channel(s)                               : 2 channels
    Sampling rate                            : 48.0 KHz
    Compression mode                         : Lossy
    Delay relative to video                  : -63ms
    Stream size                              : 137 MiB (1%)
    General
    Complete name                            : A:\Soundboard\Napalm Death fixed.wav
    Format                                   : Wave
    File size                                : 545 MiB
    Duration                                 : 49mn 37s
    Overall bit rate mode                    : Constant
    Overall bit rate                         : 1 536 Kbps
    Audio
    ID                                       : 0
    Format                                   : PCM
    Format settings, Endianness              : Little
    Codec ID                                 : 1
    Duration                                 : 49mn 37s
    Bit rate mode                            : Constant
    Bit rate                                 : 1 536 Kbps
    Channel(s)                               : 2 channels
    Sampling rate                            : 48.0 KHz
    Bit depth                                : 16 bits
    Stream size                              : 545 MiB (100%)
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    I like Encore coz I can do popmenu with it, other softwares don't offer it. With other softwares I can do a perfect blu-ray with audio on all menus but no popmenu. That's why I'm working so hard to try to resolve the errors with Encore, so I can have projects with popmenu!!! If other softwares would allow for popmenu I would drop Encore.

  • Encore CS5 Menu Problems

    Allow me to begin by saying thank you in advance for any and all help. Please know I am a marine biologist first and a video editor second so I'll apologize for my elementary questions.
    2011 macbook pro, 8gb ram, all working files (connected assets) are on the hard drive, Panasonic BD burner connected firewire 800, Encore CS5
    This is a blu-ray project.
    I have created a movie that has only 2 menus. The main menu and a chapter selction menu.
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    The video files for the menu background were transcoded in Media Manager to Blu-ray h.264 and imported assets as .m4v video and .ac3 audio.
    The actual movie files are also imported in this same manner and are working fine.
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    Problem:
    When the disc is inserted into a blu-ray player, the main menu background video looks worse than standard def videos. At the loop point set for the buttons to "appear and activate" (10sec) the video freezes, screen turns black for just a split second (literally, split second) then re-appears normally with all buttons working fine, the video plays accordingly but is still in bad quality. The buttons work as supposed to and the movies they're connected to are brilliantly played in blu-ray quality without any problems.
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    1) howcome the background videos in the menus are in bad quality? Do know in the preview, the background videos are in the good quality sometimes. In other words, when I press the preview, sometimes the videos are shown in good quality, and sometimes they're not. I onced "fixed" it when it previewed in poor quality by disconnecting the wip to the asset, then reconnecting it. It played fine in the preview once but then the next time I previewed it, it was in poor quality.
    2) why are there 2 different glitches at the loop points on the menus. Both menus are identical in properties, not in asset connections. As a matter of fact, the chapter menu was created by copy/pasting the main menu, changing the assets, and using more buttons (these buttons were also copy/paste from the main menu buttons but have different links). Also know that in preview, the loop points work just fine and the buttons appear without a problem, but the video quality is diminished as with the main menu.
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    Please help. I am in crunch time and have less than 2 weeks to complete this and get 100 discs burned.
    Thank you again for reading this and for any and all help.
    Charlie

    Hi Charlie,
    about loop point frezees (black video), no way out, sorry: this is an Encore CS5 bug and we all are waiting for the brand new CS5.5.
    Jon Jeddes has tried to find a solution with other sws support but he met lot of difficulties.
    About your low definition results, it could depend by many things.
    Don't know Media Manager, but, usually, low definitions are related to low bitrates (check yours are at least 25 Mb per second).
    Hope this will help.
    Ciao
    Giorgio

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