Encore is Reporting incorrect Blu-Ray Project size/length

Hello,
I've exported a 45 minute Premiere project into mpeg-2 bluray, and the file is about 10 gb. When bringing into encore and creating a timeline, the video is correct, but audio track is about 15 times longer than the video, and reported project size is 215gb.
I can play the file correctly in media player and premiere - any ideas?
Thanks a million,
Jonathan

Jonathan,
You've covered a lot of ground since my last post!
You should be able to see the issue in Pr - I can.
Try playing the H.264 file in either Quicktime player (if you have it installed) or KMPlayer (my favorite "free" player). If you don't see artifacts there, then the MC keyframe issue is not the problem.
You should try CBR and any other parameter variations you can think of - that's what I'm doing here. In my tests, moving the keyframes closer together just results in more frequent artifacts. But that can be a good thing when you're testing. I'm still researching this issue.
For your tests, make sure you are using unique file names each and every time you export from Pr; otherwise En will get very fussy and start giving you errors.
Also, while testing different file lengths and encoding schemes, you should be using a dedicated test project in En. Don't go anywhere near your real project.
Please heed Jon's advice and use a BD-RE for all of your test burns to disc. As he does, I test disc images by mounting them with SlySoft's VirtualCloneDrive (also free).
What is your source material in Pr? Is it some form of 24p or 24pa HDV? Is it any form of 24p? If so, make sure it's interpreted correctly in Pr, and then make sure that En interprets the MPEG2 output from Pr correctly.
-Jeff

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Format                                   : BDAV
Format/Info                              : Blu-ray Video
File size                                : 1,98 GiB
Duration                                 : 12min
Overall bit rate mode                    : Variabile
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ID                                       : 4113 (0x1011)
Menu ID                                  : 1 (0x1)
Format                                   : AVC
Format/Info                              : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile                           : [email protected]
Format settings, CABAC                   : Si
Format settings, ReFrames                : 2 frame
Format settings, GOP                     : M=2, N=13
Codec ID                                 : 27
Duration                                 : 12min
Bit rate mode                            : Variabile
Bit rate                                 : 21,2 Mbps
Maximum bit rate                         : 22,0 Mbps
Width                                    : 1.920 pixel
Height                                   : 1.080 pixel
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate                               : 25,000 fps
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0
Bit depth                                : 8 bit
Scan type                                : Interlacciato
Scan order                               : Top field first
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.408
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ID                                       : 4352 (0x1100)
Menu ID                                  : 1 (0x1)
Format                                   : AC-3
Format/Info                              : Audio Coding 3
Mode extension                           : CM (complete main)
Format settings, Endianness              : Big
Codec ID                                 : 129
Duration                                 : 12min
Bit rate mode                            : Costante
Bit rate                                 : 256 Kbps
Channel(s)                               : 2 canali
Channel positions                        : Front: L R
Sampling rate                            : 48,0 KHz
Bit depth                                : 16 bit
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