ENCORE menu video frozen at loop point

In creating my DVD menu I imported a video and audio file into my project and then linked them up to the main menu under Properties>Motion. At first I did not set a loop point and only the audio played when previewed; the background was black (perhaps the first frame of the video). When I set a loop point at 1 second the audio again played fine but the video was frozen at the loop point frame.
There must be something I'm missing...I thought I followed the tutorial article.
Thank you!

No, I haven't. I'm remembering that option in the preview window and will try it. Thanks!

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Hi all,
Thank you for your time reading this. I've searched the forum and didn't see a resolution for this type of issue. Please accept my apology if it is noted somewhere and I didn't find it.
I created a Motion Menu in After Effects CS3 that is 00;05;07;00
I then saved the layers as a psd files (I didn't create buttons within AE)
I created the buttons I wanted within Encore.
Turned off all of the layers in Encore except for the buttons that I created
I created an AVI file out of the After Effects composition which is set as the Motion menu in Encore
The only problem that I am having is that when the video ends it goes back to the very beginning of the motion menu instead of the Loop point I set at 00;00;14;00 (14 seconds if I did that right)
I have Animate buttons checked
Loop point: 00;00;14;00
Loop #: Forever
On the basic tab, for both End Action and Override I went to Specify link and chose the Motion menu(AVI) that I created. I checked the box at the bottom "Set to Loop Point"
I'm not really sure what I'm doing wrong. This is my first time with a Motion Menu, so I'm sure I'm doing something wrong.
Thank you for your time on this
Best regards
Jeff

Jeff,
Thanks for explaining.
I'm now using CS5 and I'd heard the two menu thing wasn't necessary any more so:
A week or so ago, I was trying to figure out the same thing. I posted this question here http://forums.adobe.com/thread/852185?tstart=30.
Unfortunately, there were no answers, and by then I had found in the Encore Help under Loop point (as you did) this group of instructions at the bottom
"Set menu loop back
You can set a loop point in a motion menu to a point from which you want the motion menu to loop, rather than the beginning. This is useful when the starting point and ending point of the motion menu are separated by a long interval.
Select the menu from the Menu panel.
On the Properties panel, set the loop point.
Select Specify Link from the End Action Options menu.
Select the target from the list, and then select Set To Loop Point, and click OK"
However, I can't get this to work similar to you problem. That is, if I select the "Play all, Scenes " menu as the target, since it has a motion menu, I can select "Set to loop point", since it's not greyed out.
However, if I select the next menu "Scenes" with no motion menu, the "set to loop point" is greyed out. If I select the Play all etc with the motion menu, then the loop point doesn't work ie it still loops back to the beginning of the motion menu.
I'm not sure what the work "taget" means from the last sentence in the suggestions.
I was hoping an Adobe person would chime in, but so far no luck.
I'm doing this in a SD project and not BluRay.
Sorry to ramble.
John

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English is not my native language (I used Wikipedia to understand RTFM !!!).
I used to copy&paste some lines from the manuals when a post can be answered directly that way (why to write it again if it's well written there?).
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Message was edited by: brazzamHD

Given lines 1, 2 and 3, it is very unlikely that GPRM0 will ever be zero...
What your lines are saying, roughly, is:
"find the value of the last button that was pressed on a menu, and reduce it to a simple integer we can work with. Add '1' to the button number and then jump to the loop point on the menu IF the value in GPRM0 is '1'"
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Also, you don't specify which GPRM you are evaluating in either version of line 4 - I assume GPRM0, as that is the one you are working with in lines 1, 2 and 3.
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mov GPRM0, SPRM8
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However, you might want to simply start at the loop point of the menu but make sure that the user is on the same button they were on previoulsy, in which case the code would be:
mov GPRM0, SPRM8
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mov GPRM0, SPRM8
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Anyone ever get this message when building a DVD?
http://www.reflexive-cinematics.com/miscimages/errormessage.jpg
I keep getting this damn messages with Every adobe application. I was having tons of issues with encore 1.0 so I upgraded and bought 2.0. Now I'm having that error message.
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Loop Point in the intro video

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When a viewer inserts a DVD into a DVD player I want this to happen:
1) The introduction video must play (it's about 20 seconds long).
2) This intro video must lead the viewer to the main menu.
3) During the intro video, the viewer must not be able to skip the intro video (like in the normal DVDs, where you have to wait for FBI warnings to first finish displaying before you can gain control of the remote again).
I know that I can use a loop point to "freeze" the viewer's remote control buttons for the loop point duration, but it seems like this only works at the main menu stage.
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JBowden
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Regarding your last point "set the timeline's user operations to prohibit anything" - I did the following:
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I'm hoping somebody can help me...
I've created a menu that has a video clip background, and set a loop point about 4 seconds in (after everything flies in, and the image remains static).
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It's a great suggestion, Hal. Thanks. But are you really saying that that skip is unavoidable? What's the point in being able to "loop" something, if the loop can't appear seamless?
I'm not doubting that you know what you're talking about, I'm just surprised if such a fundemental problem hasn't been resolved by the manufacturers. Or am I really that much more pedantic than everyone else out there? (From what I've seen on this forum, I'd find that hard to believe!)
Thanks for the great suggestion, anyway. (I've done something similar, where the music fades out at the end of a 2-minute menu, and when it loops, you can very clearly see the stutter, but it almost looks intentional. Not nearly as efficient (or effective) as the looping 20-second menu I was originally planning, but if that's the technology's limitations, well, whaddya do?)
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