Encore wants to re-transcode my MPEG-2 file

Hi,
I'm just starting out with encore CS3 on a Mac platform (OSX 10.4.11) and have a problem importing assets for Bluray authoring.
I followed the instructions in a Adobe pdf (bluray_workflow_guide_with_fcp.pdf: which explains how to create Bluray compliant Mpeg-2 files in Apple's compressor), but when I import these files into encore, they are still marked with 'untranscooded'. I have tried different exports with different settings but nothing helps. Has somebody come across this problem or does someone have a solution.
Thanks in advance,
Erik Bulckens

The authoring itself is possible. It can be done (and is also being promoted as such) in Encore.
Also there is a possibility to burn simple Bluray discs (or even normal DVD discs with Bluray content that play on Bluray players) in Toast 10.
Thanks...

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I just received an mpeg-2 from a client to make his bluray with. I usually don't have any problems with mpeg-2s. But, encore says that it needs to transcode the file. Whereas the audio he gave me says "Don't Transcode" in encore.
Below are the file details from the MediaInfo app. I've also attached a screenshot of my settings in encore.
In Encore, I made sure the project matched the frame rate and resolution, so I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong. I'm using CS5.1
Format : MPEG Video
Format version : Version 2
File size : 11.5 GiB
Duration : 1h 31mn
Overall bit rate mode : Variable
Overall bit rate : 18.0 Mbps
Video
Format : MPEG Video
Format version : Version 2
Format profile : Main@High
Format settings, BVOP : Yes
Format settings, Matrix : Custom
Format settings, GOP : M=3, N=15
Duration : 1h 31mn
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 18.0 Mbps
Maximum bit rate : 27.0 Mbps
Width : 1 440 pixels
Height : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate : 29.970 fps
Standard : Component
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Compression mode : Lossy
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.386
Stream size : 11.5 GiB (100%)
Color primaries : BT.709
Transfer characteristics : BT.709
Matrix coefficients : BT.709

What's the best way to go about transcoding this outside of Encore and getting the best results?
Have the client send you the correct media. He has access to the original. Any transcoding you do with his MPEG will incur additional and unwanted degradation.

Encore wants to transcode m2v files? Why?

Hi!
I haven't used Encore for long time yet, so this might be a stupid question... but among other things, I use it to transfer my own digi-tv recordigs from Topfield to DVD. Usually it goes like this:
1) Demux the .rec file from Topfield with ProjectX
2) Import resulting .m2v and .mp2 files to Encore
3) set .mp2 to Don't transcode - the .m2v is automatically set to Don't transcode
Now, I have stumbled accross couple of movies where this didn't work. Suddenly, Encore (2.0) says that the .m2v files are Untranscoded and doesn't let me choose Don't transcode for them. What is wrong with the files? (In the same project I have some .m2v files that work at the same time...)
Any ideas? Encore doesn't tell me what's wrong. Tools that I should use? I really do not want to re-transcode those MPEG-files...

Just a guess, but are the m2v files 704x480 (NTSC) or 704x576 (PAL)?
While Encore accepts these sizes and they are DVD-legal resolutions, Encore insists on transcoding them to 720x480 or 720x576.
There are a few solutions:
1. Let Encore transcode the files. The quality shouldn't be affected, but it might take a long time depending on the length of the programs.
2. Manually transcode the files with another encoder.
3. Change your acquisition method to create 720x480 files instead of 704x480. This might not be possible.
3. Use another authoring application that accepts this resolution. While 352x240, 352x480, 704x480, and 720x480 are all legal resolutions for NTSC DVDs, Encore only accepts 704x480 and 720x480 and will transcode 704x480 to 720x480.

Why does Encore try to re-transcode compliant M2V files?

Encore will only try to re-transcode an MPEG-2 file in 2 circumstances.
1 - The asset is not properly DVD-Compliant.
This could be for several reasons, the most likely offenders being either too high a bitrate or an incorrect GOP size. DVD-Video limits us to a total
i combined Audio & Video
bitrate of 9800 kbps, or 9.8 Mb/s. This is also a peak value, not an average one. The easiest way to check the bitrate is with the excellent "Bitrate Viewer" available from http://www.tecoltd.com/bitratev.htm
2 - The total combined bitrate of the Audio & Video files
i on the timeline
exceeds the maximum bitrate set in the Project Settings (Advanced).
If, for example, this is set to 7Mb/sec, and the peak rates when combined
i exceed
this number, Encore will re-transcode.
The only solution in both cases is to re-transcode the original source file to MPEG-2 or else to use the uncompressed asset & allow Encore to transcode automatically.

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Here's what I would change:
1. Use an interlaced display mode unless your source footage is 23.976 with 3:2 pulldown.
2. Make your GOP length 15 instead of 8 (if I counted right).
3. Close your GOPs.
4. Convert your .avi to uncompressed before sending it to TMPGEnc, and then trim a few frames off of either end before encoding. XviD, like DivX and MPEG, is temporally compressed, and if it's not decompressed exactly right, can cause problems in whatever program you are using.
5. Export a few small sections of the .avi file at a time and see if Encore sets any of those to "Don't Transcode". Encode increasingly larger sections until Encore wants to transcode them.
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1. I was able to successfully import a 720p file at 59.94fps as a asset with 5.1 audio. The asset properties say "Don't transcode"and the file type imports as a mpeg video in the project panel so i am happy right now, but
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Hi,
That file may not be a blu ray legal file.
If the 720P file is blu ray legal then the status should be don't transcode.
You can check the file property(status is automatic transcode) with the file property(status is don't transcode).
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I'm at my wit's end here. My system specs are in my profile.
My source footage is 1440x1080 30P.
I've launched AME, and used the templates that closest match my source footage..AME successfully encoded the .m2v files. Again, these are templates that are automatic, and i haven't modified anything that would make Encore burp....
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Did you use automatic for the transcode settings in EN? Or you used the preset you describe?
I created a premade .m2v file, so the auto transcode is no good to me.
I ended up using an Encore preset to transcode the videos..Of course, i changed the bitrate to suit my needs..
What have you set as the maximum video/audio bitrate for this project? (Project settings, Advanced tab)
I have tried all of them...Encore still perceives the assets as untranscoded.
Try H264 BluRay, 1440x1080i 29,97 high quality and set audio to Dolby
Yes, but the transcode times go through the roof...I typically have about 2.5 hours of HDV footage...
Mpeg2 at 18 mbps give me satisfactory results...H264 is not necessary in my case..
Again, this is only with .m2v files that i use within templates that come with AME.
I've done extensive encoding in the past. Unless there's an anomoly (like GOP structure) that i'm missing, i'm at a loss.
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