Ending drop cap styling after a paragraph return

I’m working back in the dark ages of CS4 and I’m having an issue with drop caps and my workflow in the office. I have a drop-cap applied to the first paragraph via the Paragraph Style and I have apply next style active. When editors go into the text box and add a new paragraph, mid way through the existing first paragraph, the newly created paragraph had the drop cap applied. How do I get InDesign to deactivate the drop cap command after the first word or first sentence so this will not happen.

You'll just have to apply a new paragraph style to the new paragraph.
The Next Style doesn't apply here, because there's text after the cursor
where you split the paragraph.
So just apply a new paragraph style that doesn't have a drop cap --
verty quick if you use a keyboard shortcut for it.

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