Endnotes in a footnoted document

Hello,
I'm trying to insert a section with endnotes in a longer document which has footnotes. I know you can't have endnotes and footnotes in the same document, but I was hoping that inserting a new section would allow me to do it. The document was written in another pages window, and my plan was to copy and paste it in – does anyone know a way of copying and pasting without losing the formatting?
Or does anyone have some other great idea to get round this problem?
The reason the section has endnotes in the first place, rather than footnotes, is because of the horrible way long footnotes appear in pages... Perhaps someone has had this problem before...
Thank you,
FF.

You may want to re-post in the Microsoft Office for Mac Product Forums, I suspect someone there can answer your question.
Roger

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That would be the only workaround I can think of.
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If you are wondering why you are not getting any responses, it is because you have vented a complaint without any details that make any sense or give anyone something to work on.
If you want help, I suggest actually detailing what has happened, with versions of software etc. Anything that would let us assist.
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I can't find any mention so far of endnotes (as against footnotes): are they not an option as yet?
Pages is glorious to use as compared to Word, but if it wants to compete in the academic market it is going to have to have the possibility of endnotes.
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To each his/her own.
Don't get me wrong, I love this app. In fact, I have done a couple of my normal word processing duties using it just for fun. I developed a beautiful template for taking minutes at meetings. The outline feature is decent enough to allow me to take minutes and print almost immediately afterwards. A quick trip to the Inspector allowed me to decrease the lines enough so it all fits on one page. Very slick.
The addiction with the program comes with time and I have not used it very long.
From my first impressions these are the short comings of the app as a word processor:
*Compared to the other word processors this app seems sluggish, painfully so when you zoom in to 200% or more.
*The mail merge is limited to Address book, effectively negating all the work I have done with Appleworks databases. The simplicity and power of the Appleworks database and easy mail merge with any field in any database still makes it my app of choice.
* There are a decent amount of shortcuts but the interface of the app seems to be too mouse oriented. I find myself taking my hands off the keyboard all the time, mostly to use some feature in the Inspector. I am able to finish long docs in Appleworks much quicker. This may change I use the program more.
* File size is too large, text files with a few graphics eating up the space of a Pagemaker layout doc. When you create a zillion word processing docs like I do this space is going to add up.
* html export is lousy, but heck, it is in any word processing app I have ever used.
Great word features:
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* Excellent line and character adjustment-my favorite word feature.
* Beautiful rendering of fonts. Kerning looks more professional than Appleworks.
* Sections and column creation mid page looks easier, although i haven't played with this much.
*Outlines work well although the selection seems limited compared to other apps.
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When trying to enter my short papers into my College's system I "select all" and copy but when I go to paste the footnotes are not there...HELP!

A quick look in these forums and also the reviews in the App Store would quickly reveal that Pages 5 is a cut down, buggy downgrade from the previous version and is not a clone of Microsoft Word.
3 Quick tests show that:
1. Pages 5.2 only lets you select one Footnote/Endnote at a time. They are not treated as part of the document body text and you have to pick through them one at a time.
2. Word: Mac treats the Footnotes/Endnotes as a group independent of the document body but selectable as a separate group.
3. Pages '09 acts the same way that Word: Mac does.
None of them lets you Select all and include the Footnotes/Endnotes because the Footnotes/Endnotes are in an independent layout of the document body. Much like floating Textboxes, but fixed in their location.
Exporting the document to .rtf from either Word or Pages '09 does include the text in the Footnotes/Endnotes in the document body, but destroys much of the layout. Pages 5.2 can not export to rtf, because Apple removed that feature along with 100 others.
The immediate question I have is: Why are you cutting and pasting documents into your College's system?
Doesn't your College's system accept uploading of Word files?
Also why use software that is not a clone of Word, which is what it seems you want, rather than use Word or LibreOffice [free] or the dozens of alternative applications out there?
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PTech5885 wrote:
I'm trying to insert a bibliography and cannot locate EndNote. It's not under the >insert tab where it should be. iWork '09 was purchased along with my iMac last month, so it should have been installed from the get go. I have looked over the tutorials and can't seem to find a solution to this. If I were to uninstall iWork and re-install it, would all my pages documents be erased in the process? Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Adding and Editing Footnotes and Endnotes
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Adding an Endnote at the End of a Document
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1 Click Inspector in the toolbar, click the Document button, and then click Document.
2 Choose Use Document Endnotes from the Footnotes & Endnotes pop-up menu.
The rest you can read in the Pages User Guide page 53 English version.

I use pages. What programmes can you use to create bibliographies? Is there anything like endnote available?

Is there anything I've endnote for pages?

Hi Ma,
The problem I have with the endnote built in to pages is that I cannot cut and paste citations into it
I read this on Page 56 of the Pages'09 User Guide, and tried it. I could paste into the endnote. What is it that you can't do?
Adding an Endnote at the End of a Document
In a word processing document, you can add special marks in a document that link to notes at the end of the document. These notes are called document endnotes.
To add a document endnote:
Click Inspector in the toolbar, click the Document button, and then click Document.
Choose Use Document Endnotes from the Footnotes & Endnotes pop-up menu.
Choose a numbering format from the Format pop-up menu.
Choose whether endnotes are continuous or restart on each page or section from the Numbering pop-up menu.
Place the insertion point in the main text flow (not in a text box, table, or other object) where you want the endnote mark to appear.
Choose Insert > Endnote.
An endnote mark appears, and the insertion point moves to the corresponding endnote field at the end of the document following a section break. If you don’t want the endnotes on a new page, delete the section break.
Type the endnote information.
My example:
I was able to type or paste the endnote information. Please reply and say what is not working for you.
You can download the User Guide from the Help Menu in Pages.
Regards,
Ian.

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*+Adding an Endnote at the End of a Section+*
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+Choose a numbering format from the Format pop-up menu.+
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+Choose Insert > Section Endnote.+
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+Type the endnote information.+
+In addition to text, you can use inline shapes, graphics, and other objects; see “What Are Floating and Inline Objects?” on page 134 for instructions.+
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Pages 5.2 with EndNote Plugin - Slow/laggy/delayed typing

Pages 5.2
OSX 10.9
Apple Pages EndNote plugin 2.0
EndNote 7.1
Pages documents without EndNote are fine, but using the Apple EndNote plugin after 2-3 pages with a few references typing gets extremely laggy (up to 1s per character) and seems to get worse as the document gets larger.
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I'm interested in seeing if anyone else using Pages 5.2 and Endnote 7.1 is experiencing anything similar? At the moment support from EndNote on this issue has not been very forthcoming.
Appreciate any comments if this is occurring for you as well, thanks.

Definitely, it's like everytime you press a key it's analysing what you are typing. I'm not sure if it is some more advanced feature which could be disabled (there were hits on something similar happening with Word on MacOSX but the tips provided to work-around this didn't apply to Pages, see here - http://community.thomsonreuters.com/t5/EndNote-General/EN-X6-is-slow-as-molasses /m-p/58770#M10513).
FYI on the different sections, I can say my experience is similar, however not as bad. For me it seemed to get worse the longer the document got. Reproducing it I could easily see from around the 2-3 page with some dummy references the lag was apparent and after 3-4 pages it got even worse.
Mine is just a college essay, barely 10 pages with around 2-5 references per page, but by the time I got to the end the lag was driving me insane. It's incredibly distracting typing out a sentance and then waiting 5-10s for it to 'appear'.
I did notice for example that when I inserted a page break at the start, and edited the title page (with no citations) that there was zero lag, but then on other pages which had no citations (abstract) there was still lag. I also found it seemed to especially kick in when spell-checking or attempting to auto-correct words, it would change a slightly incorrect word to something complete garbage (and I think this is part of whatever EndNote is doing I never noticed the Pages spellchecker to be so dysfunctional before).
Well, we'll see how TR goes. I'm not quite sure if they are actually fixing the issue or just trying to fob me off, I've asked some more direct questions to try and get an indication of if they have actually identified the issue or not. I found it so easy to reproduce without (what I think) any 'custom' thing on my laptop being an issue that hopefully they were able to reproduce just as easily and can investigate a fix.
Here's hoping they find a fix before I have to write another essay :-)
I will update if TR comes back with anything concrete.
And in the mean time if anyone else is facing this same issue please let us know :-)

Footnotes and Bibliography?

It appears that Apple has overlooked the ability to create footnotes and a bibiography in iBooks Author. (yet it's specifically targeted at the academic textbook market) Can this possibly be true???

I accidentally found out that iBooks Author will support footnotes! But you have to create them in another application first.
So here's my story. I use Scrivener 2.2 to create my books. But I really want to use iBooks Author to spice up the final product. I had text for a book typed in Scrivener, with footnotes already created. I copied and pasted them into iBooks Author and lo and behold, all of the footnotes were insterted at the end of the section in iBooks Author as endnotes!
The footnote numbers appeared by the text, and then at the end of the section, the footnote number appeared along with the note, I was also able to go to a footnote and decrease the size of the footnote number (which I like to be smaller than the chapter text). Heck, I'll just show you...
Here are screenshots (it's an old journal of my that I am footnoting). First screenshot is what it looks like in Scrivener, text on the left, footnotes on the right:
I naïvely copied and pasted this text into IBooks. Lucky for me, this is how it came out in iBooks Author:
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By the way, if you use this copy and paste method, just make sure you copy and paste an entire chapter all at once. When I copied and pasted paragraph by paragraph, it reordered the numbers back to footnote 1 in each paragraph, and you don't want to re-number them by hand.
If anyone else has tried copying and pasting with another word processor with the same result, please let us all know.
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http://answers.acrobatusers.com/ViewQuestion.aspx?questionid=57076
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Can somebody please tell me where I can find the option for endnotes in Indesign C6?

I just changed Corel Ventura for Indesign, because they told me it was the best. Editing the first page of my first book with Indesign, I'm finding out that there's no option to use endnotes - only for footnotes. As there are hardly any books without endnotes, I cannot believe this. So I hope somebody can tell me what I'm overlooking?

Hi,
See Footnotes and Endnotes- please help! [Post#3]

EPUB Endnote troubles in CS5

So I have been using indesign for publishing for a little while now and now I've been startign to try and convert a couple of them into epubs . One thing that erks me though is that most of my books have tons of footnotes/endnotes depending on the authors preferences and sometimes indesign will automatically link these with their apropraite reference but other times they seem to not even recognized as subscript during the conversion , leaving a big fact nonlinked number where the 'note should. Now I've tried to see if an noticeable difference between the 'notes between the books but I can't seem to find any noticable difference. Am I going to have to grind this out manually or has someone encountered this problem with 'notes before when converting to epub. Some of the books have 60+ 'notes in each chapter so I would really like to know if there is a quick fix rather than having to link them all manually. ty
Note: I have noticed that does tend to happen more with endnotes than with footnotes but I have cases with both.

Really? That really sucks. I have a book with 60+ endnotes in each chapter with 27 chapters. Does that mean if want to have them linked I'll to go one by one and manually link them with cross references or hyperlinks? Also doesn't CS5 have issues with keeping links when porting them over to epub format?

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