Enhanced Receiver determination - for Integration Process

Hi,
Just wanted to confirm that if it is possible to have more than one Receivers, with Enhanced Receiver Determination and one of the Receiver happens to be Integration Process. I know with Enhanced Receiver Determinations you can find more than one Receivers at Run time, however the key question is, if in addition to normal Receiver Systems (like SAP R/3 or Web Services etc), if we can also kickoff Integration Process within Enhanced Receiver Determination.
Thanking in advance.

as said by Udo Martens
Assumedly the different receivers are using different Inbound Interfaces (a BP is using an Abstract Interface). Therefore you would need for each different receiver a own Interface Determination referring a own mapping.
refer this wiki http://wiki.sdn.sap.com/wiki/pages/pointstab/viewpageversion.action?pageId=131760630&version=5 to Know how to configure Enhanced receiver determination and Interface determination for each receiver .
In your case one of the receiver will be Integration process

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Hi,
While creating the receiver determination for the BAPI, how to specify the BAPI name in the Receiver (Partner) Service .
I found an example in SDN Blog, however, it did not clear my doubt.
/people/arpit.seth/blog/2005/06/27/rfc-scenario-using-bpm--starter-kit
Kindly, reply me.
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Dinesh Kumar wrote:
> Hi,
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> While creating the receiver determination for the BAPI, how to specify the BAPI name in the Receiver (Partner) Service .
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> I found an example in SDN Blog, however, it did not clear my doubt.
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> /people/arpit.seth/blog/2005/06/27/rfc-scenario-using-bpm--starter-kit
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> Kindly, reply me.
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> Regards,
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> dinesh.
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Abstract Interface :
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I am running into a bit of a problem when using enhanced receiver determination on a SOAP - XI - RFC scenario on a NW2004 SP17 XI system.
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Hi Friends,
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in my scenario i creted manually,
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is it compulsory to create 2 Receiver structures in msg structure?
if yes what r those, actually i used from sap.help.com,
Can any body should give me the solution for this, regarding mapping and configuration , if anybody experienced this scenario. Pls . give me the guidelines to do.

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the mapping creating the receiver list is not producing the required element "Receivers" from Namespace "'http://sap.com/xi/XI/System". Look to the operation mapping given in the enhance Receiver Determination (IB Directory) and detect the corresponding mapping program (ESR). Copy the source payload from MONI, test the mapping program and correct it.
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To do so, I set an import parameter in the operation mapping and the message mapping and made the needed binding.
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Hi
I have not used this feature yet, however I dont think that this is a bug.
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http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nwpi71/helpdata/en/43/bbb7fd90f5332ee10000000a11466f/frameset.htm
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