Enlarging Sequencer Piano Roll Window

I know I've seen this somewhere but for the life of me I can't find it or work it out!
I open the sequencer window for a midi track and the piano roll displays on the left and C6.
I need to be editing anywhere not just C6.
If I use the create tool and click on the last note at the bottom the window will scroll up slightly but of course this is pretty ordinary.
There is an answer but it is not obvious.
This is driving me crazy and let me tell you it's not a long trip :-)

I knew I had seen the answer to this somewhere - its just that I don't use midi often/at all really
http://www.adobeforums.com/webx/.3c0639bd/1
There really should be something to indicate this - maybe a change in mouse cursor or maybe a big flashing neon sign with a giant arrow pointing to the answer.
PS Anything past the word 'cursor' you could probably ignore :-)

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1) But how to choose certain one region of many selected to edit it?
2) And how to edit all at once?
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First of all, the Piano Roll has two mechansim, of what it is displaying.
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Maybe find a local who can translate for you. I don't know what to tell you for dealing in another country for service on your computer.
I can offer you something you can do if you want to give it a try. You'll need a backup of your data in your Home folder because you need to erase the drive. You'll also need a solid, preferably fast, internet connection.
Install or Reinstall Lion/Mountain Lion from Scratch
Be sure you backup your files to an external drive or second internal drive because the following procedure will remove everything from the hard drive.
Boot to the Recovery HD:
Restart the computer and after the chime press and hold down the COMMAND and R keys until the menu screen appears. Alternatively, restart the computer and after the chime press and hold down the OPTION key until the boot manager screen appears. Select the Recovery HD and click on the downward pointing arrow button.
Erase the hard drive:
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2. After DU loads select your startup volume (usually Macintosh HD) from the
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Reinstall Lion/Mountain Lion: Select Reinstall Lion/Mountain Lion and click on the Install button.
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Confirmed.
I'm not sure that this has ever worked in the Piano Roll.
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If nothing else, this huge list of updates and fixes, shows clearly that the Logic Dev team is working hard on fixing and improving LPX to a major degree.... and from the list of fixes done.. show they do read the bug reports submitted!
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