EOL for mars 20 signature updates?

The EOL/EOS document for the MARS 20 does not mention when signature updates will end.
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collateral/vpndevc/ps5739/ps6241/end_of_life_notice_c51-470242.html
The EOL notice for the newer devices lists the date as June 2, 2014
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collateral/vpndevc/ps5739/ps6241/eol_c51-636888.html
Does the MARS 20 use the same file, and will updates continue to be available until June 2, 2014? If not, what is the date when this will end?
Thanks
H

FYI: I opened a tac case on this and got the following response
"new MARS20 signature files will be available for automatic download from that URL until June 2 2014, assuming the MARS has a valid support contract and that contract is associated to the CCO account used by MARS box to log in to that URL."

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