Epson R1900 and Lightroom 2.3

First of all:
MacPro (OS X, 10.5.6)
Lightroom 2.3
Epson R1900 (driver 6.20)
I have formated a number of images to be 4x4 inches. In the print module I then add a 12 pixel stroke border and print the result on 4x6 inch Epson Premium Glossy. The colors are precisely as expected. However, the stroke border is wider on one edge of the 4 inch width than on the other edge of the 4 inch width. Yes, it's a difference that is easy to see. What is going on?

I just hear from Epson Support and the solution turns out to be pretty simple.
In the Print dialog there is a section called "Page Layout Settings". Nearly all of the asymmetric print placement along the narow dimension was caused by the Expansion having been set to MAX. Once I set the Expansion to MIN that left me with a small residual difference along the 4 inch dimension. The 12 pt stroke border resulted in the following (The print head is moving from LEFT to RIGHT.):
TOP:                 5 mm
BOTTOM:          5 mm
LEFT:               2.5 mm
RIGHT:             3.0 mm
I am going to assume the 0.5 mm difference is due to paper alignment tolerances until I hear otherwise.
The enclosure shows the relevant portion of the Epson R1900 Print dialog.

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I'm using Windows 7 64bit (non-SP1) and Lightroom 3.3 with a Epson R1900 printer.
Sorry if this is winded, but I've tried a lot myself and had to break down and post here.
I've read a lot of posts already about disabling color management in the printer or in LR 3.3. I've downloaded all possible profiles from Epson or other places that sound logical enough to help with my specific paper. I understand that my screen could be too bright or too dark and lightroom's interface itself could even give the impression of a photo being too bright or dark. I've read about iCC profiling twice, first in software then in the printer. I've used a Spyder3 Print SR and Spyder 3 screen calibrator.
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Now I'm not nearly as educated as most of you on these issues, so I'm going to ask some questions (sorry if they seem "newbish").
First, I understand (or currently am under the impression) that Lightroom uses something called "MelissaRBG or a.k.a "BastardRGB" to print to the screen (?). If this is true, shouldn't the exporting iCC profile be MelissaRGB.icc? Now if this is true, shouldn't the Host (Win7) look different being set at sRGB than that to what is in Lightroom? It doesn't on my system. So again if this Melissa profile is true, does Lightroom only export in MelissaRGB between the print to screen and whatever given .icc profile you have chosen to export in? In other words, is there only a handshake happening with Melissa.
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Third, being that the above 2 questions might be out of a users simplistic control and that I can't see what I'm doing wrong, should one just use the basic controls of the printer module? In my case the best prints I get are when I use the printers modules color manager of "Epson Vivid" with a +10 in brightness and +4 in saturation. Of course, this isn't going to help when I want to print to canvas or may other paper types. However, all the profiling in the world with my Spyder3 Print SR might be correct, but I'll never know because the prints always come out way off.
All the trying and failure make me feel like the guy who is barely qualified to make small rocks from a boulder, just give me a hammer. Should I just give up and let it rip with sliders and keep my eyes closed?
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Just checking off a few things. You may have done all this and some has been said before, I'm just trying for the complete list:
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Another check on brightness: get a piece of blank printer paper, and with normal room lighting hold it near your monitor when displaying something white. Does the screen look significantly brighter than the paper? If so, it may be too bright. Modern monitors are way too bright by default. My HP monitor brightness is set to 15 out of 100 to get 100 cd/m2.
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Click Page Setup... (bottom L) and set the paper type in the Epson dialogue. Click Advanced (I think it's a separate tab in R1900, it's a button in Main tab on R1800) and in "Colour management" check ICM and (very important) check "Off (No Color Adjustment)". I'm not sure with the R1900, but on the Main tab, you may also have to "Mode: custom" and "No Color Adjustment" in the drop down. This is telling the printer driver that:
colour management is being used (so don't mess with the colours to make them "pretty", which it would otherwise do)
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You mentioned LR using a form of ProPhoto colour space as its working space. That's not an issue. It's just a convenience for LR, and has absolutely no bearing on the output. The only point is that the working space should be at least as large as the original image colour space, the monitor colour space and the printer colour space (so it's not limiting the colour). LR automatically converts the image to:
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Without trying to inflame an already heated discussion on prints that are too dark under my lightroom - printer - Mac Osx configuration. (Although I too am a sufferer of the darkness...!)
I have recently downloaded the latest ICC profiles for the R1800 directly from Epson to my Mac. There are three of them and for arguments sake they cover the paper type I want "Premium Glossy Photo Paper"
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I suspect that some R1800 users have perhaps not tackled the issue of dark prints and may not be feel that they have an issue at all. I also believe that this particular issue only involves Intel Mac's which may not apply to some.
Your issue may have something to do with the printer driver as well... I made sure that I went and found the very latest driver that Epson has out (there is a new one specifically for Intel Mac's). I made sure that I deleted the driver that came with the original disk.... I did this via the "printer setup utility"... then downloaded and installed the new driver.
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The profiles should then automatically appear in Lightroom and in colosync in the "Finder" screen under:
" Users" > then whatever your computer name is > Library > Colorsync > Profiles
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after upgrading your OSX version to 10.4.7?
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Dark Prints from Epson R1900 w/ Colormunki

I use the Epson R1900 and Colormunki and still get dark prints. Here is my setup.
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In the calibration process, I have to turn my monitor Brightness control all the way to 0 to get to come close to what Colormunki wants.
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I don't use a Colormunki..but what you say here
kentmcpherson wrote:
In the calibration process, I have to turn my monitor Brightness control all the way to 0 to get to come close to what Colormunki wants.
I have to turn off the Enbale DDC Calibration function in the preferences or Colormunki sets my monitor so dark, I can barely see it.
sounds very strange. Usually when profiling a monitor and setting the luminance value (which is either called the brightness or backlight) control, you start from the brightest point the monitor will go to and then the device measures this and sets a recommended luminance value measured in cm2 (that is candles to the square meter) and you reset your monitor brightness until it matches the required value. Are you reading the instructions carefully as what you say here just doesn't make a lot of sense to me. Setting the monitor to 0 (o what?) and saying the calibration device sets your monitor brightness (this will be done on the monitor controls not by a calibration device)
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Does a new imac support epson r1900

i am hoping to buy a new imac soon the printer i have is epson r1900 and scanner is epson perfection 2480 photo will it have the drivers to support them thank you

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dchrismiller wrote:
John,
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http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3771?viewlocale=en_US
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Thanks,
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When using printer Epson R1900 with Aperture 3 and if I mistakenly choose the wrong paper such as, epson's luster instead of glossy, does that change the exposure? Like make it too dark one or two stops!

When using printer Epson R1900 with Aperture 3 and if I mistakenly choose the wrong paper such as, epson's luster instead of glossy, does that change the exposure? Like make it too dark one or two stops!

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So, if you are having magenta cast problems try ticking the 16 Bit box. It may just save your last clumps of hair from being torn out.

I wouldn't argue with you re the R2400 and its capabilities as it isn't mine and I didn't have any of its literature while trying to get to the bottom of the problem. The profiles I tried were Epson's own and a Permajet one from their website. Both produced magenta results until 16 Bit was turned on, or at least that seemed the trigger for the better results. Unexpected, I agree.

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