Epson R1900 dark prints from CS5

I had Photoshop 7.0 on my PC and printed to an Epson Stylus Photo R1900 with great results.
I purchased a MacBook Pro and tried printing some of the same art prints (transferred via hard drive) using Photoshop CS5 and the same Epson R1900 printer. The prints are very dark!!  I switched to 'Printer manages color' on the advice of an Epson technician who said PS is managing color based on 4 ink colors. The Epson has eight colors. I have tried multiple settings, I bought a Color Munki and calibrated my monitor. I still can't get the same quality print that I got using my old PC and version 7.0 of Photoshop. Has anyone else solved this problem yet? I have found numerous comments online about the Epson R1900 printing too DARK!

I took my Epson R1900 printer to Washington State University and asked the printer technician to see if he could help.
The instructor and technician were co-teaching my photography class that included adjusting our digital photos in Camera raw and using correct settings in Photoshop to make prints. My prints turned out perfect on the WSU Epson. They were too dark on my R1900-(terrible actually.) I had a photo of mallard chicks with dark brown feathers, on my Epson R1900 they printed out with almost black brown feathers. The instructors tried adjustments (Photoshop manages colors), adjusting curves, and got the same result I did.
We then tested to see if it was my Mac. We used the same image and printed to my Epson from the WSU Macintosh computers.  This same image had printed perfectly on the schools Epson but printed dark on my Epson. Same settings. They suggested that I buy a different printer. The instructor said he had colleagues that had experienced similar problems. I just keep hoping I can find a solution rather than buying new.

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