Erasing deleted messages with IMAP

My work email account is setup as an IMAP account and is set to just mark deleted messages (and hide them from view, not move to trash). So I've got a smart mailbox setup to collect messages older than a certain date so i can erase really old messages.
So my question is this: If i right click on the smart mailbox and click "erase deleted messages" will it erase only the messages in this smart mailbox or will it erase all deleted messages in my whole email account?

awesome.

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