ERP source system appearing in BI folder

Hello All,
We have done a refresh of our ERP system from PROD to QA.
When I restored the connection of the source system in BI it is appearing under the Source System folder BI, instead of the SAP folder.
Also the symbol is different of that of an ERP source system.
Does this matter? Why does it think it is a BI system when it is an ERP system? Has anybody experienced this or no how to resolve it?
Many Thanks,
Nick.

Hello All,
Has anybody experienced this?
Any help appreciated.
Thanks,
Nick

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[Note 1087980 - ECC Source systems appearing in BI folder|https://websmp130.sap-ag.de/sap(bD1lbiZjPTAwMQ==)/bc/bsp/spn/sapnotes/index2.htm?numm=1087980]
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I got the soulution from note: 1087980 - ECC Source systems appearing in BI folder
Summary
Symptom
Source system connection for an ECC system appears in the BI folder, rather than in SAP folder, as expected.
Other terms
Wrong folder,RSA1, RSBASIDOC, RSAP_BIW_DISCONNECT
Reason and Prerequisites
Transaction RSA1 was inadvertently used on an ECC system , thereby creating a 'Myself' source system entry in RSBASIDOC table
Solution
This is just a display issue and does not cause any operational issues. Therefore, it need not be corrected, especially if the ECC system in question is used as a BI system as well.
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I_OLTP_LOGSYS <SLOGSYS> as noted in step 2
I_FORCE_DELETE <X>
< DO NOT ENTER ANY VALUE IN THE FIELD - RFC target sys !!!!! >
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6. Select the ECC source system and select RESTORE in the right click menu.
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If running RSAP_BIW_DISCONNECT results in an error like OTHER_ERROR, please check if a valid RFC connection exists in transaction sm59.
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