"Error Applying Keyword Tag(s)" in PSE 12

When I drag an album name onto an image (or vice versa) in Organizer 12 to add the image to the album I get an error dialog with the message "Error Applying Keyword Tag(s)" and the image is not added to the album. How can I fix this? Thanks.

HI,
I don't think the rename was necessary as I didn't do that - I think it was the creation of a new album that did the trick. It must be a sort of permissions problem.
Glad it is now working for you.
Your can have the beer for me, I'm in the UK and well into my retirement so I probably won't be over there in the near future.
Brian

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Elements 12; Error Applying Keyword Tag(s)

Elements 12; Getting "Error Applying Keyword Tag(s)" when trying to add a photo to an album

Many threads about that error message:
http://forums.adobe.com/community/search.jspa?peopleEnabled=true&userID=&spotlight=false&c ontainerType=14&container=3347&rankBy=date&q=Error+Applying+Keyword+Tag%28s%29
For instance:
http://forums.adobe.com/message/5819207#5819207

When I try to assign files to albums, I get the message "error applying keyword tags"

This just started to happen, not sure why. I don't assign or use keywords. It does it on all albums. I made new albums and it did not work, even on the new albums. There was one album that did not have the problem, but when I tried to transfer an afftected album's files to it, it developed the problem. I reset the preferences in both Organizer and Editor, and that did not help. It prevents me from moving files out of as well as into albums. Any ideas on what caused this and what I can do about it? Thanks for any help.

A last try:
- what if you try to move the pictures with the common keyword (no album selected) to a new subfolder via the organizer,
- delete them from the catalog
- delete the catalog itself
- and re-import them ?
There is clearly something wrong with 'normal' or new albums as well in your case.
Your experience shows that the problem is not only in some albums, it's linked to the catalog itself. If you can create a new catalog and reimport the files of your test album and work normally, then you can test that other catalogs are ok. Otherwise, if all catalogs have the same problems, it's linked to the organizer itself, but I doubt it since you have already deleted the organizer prefs (the psa.prf and status in your 'Roaming' folder).
I have found that sometimes, using a newer version of Elements (a trial one if you want) and converting the catalog can solve problems; but on the other hand, PSE12 has new problems with converted catalogs... Also, the backup and restore process probably can't help because the catalog database is just copied, not converted.
What you have done with your test albums means that any meaningful organization is safely stored into the files metadata section, so that you can recover it in other PSE versions, Lightroom, Windows explorer or many organizing softwares. Of course with a large number of albums, that looks like a huge job.

PSE 9 Organizer Error Adding Keyword Tags and Other Woes

Hello, everyone. I am having a ton of problems with PSE 9 Organizer. The most frustrating and biggest problem is that I believe my catalog has been corrupted beyond repair. I spent all of yesterday tagging my photos. I had no problems and everything seemed to be going well until all of the sudden, the organizer suddenly froze up. I had to use the Windows task manager just to get it to close. This happened several times. Finally, the organizer locked up my computer and I had to restart. I opened the catalog and didn't seem to have any problems at that point. I was able to view all of the images, video files etc. I was even able to open the editor from the organizer. When I tried to add a tag to a photo it gave me an error. All it said was "error adding keyword tag" then nothing. I tried to delete the photo and all it said was "error deleting photo". This "error" shows up any time I try to make any changes to all of the images. I can't add any new photos, can't delete, or add tags. I have repaired the catalog several times. It found errors the first time, but evidently that didn't fix my problem. I also optimized and deleted my thumbnail cache to see if that was the issue. Still nothing. I have other catalogs and they work fine, so it is something to do with this particular catalog. Any suggestions on what to do next? Can I move the pictures to a new catalog without losing the tags? And no, I didn't write the tags to the images because I wasn't done tagging. Besides, PSE doesn't always write the tags correctly, as you probably know. Next problem. When I first open PSE and select the organizer, it doesn't alway open. I can see it on my taskbar (Windows 7 64 bit), but I can't get the window to maximize. I have to close and open several times to get the window to open. Sometimes it randomly jumps to my second monitor like it can't decide where to go. Very frustrating. I would appreciate any suggestions about what to do. Thanks.

Back to the original question, after thinking about this for a couple days I have had two ideas for workarounds:
1) Copy my tag names into the photo metadata and create a new catalog to bring all of my images into. This will allow me to keep all of my existing tags, and it MIGHT solve the tag display problem based on a test with a couple images in a new catalog. The downsides to this are a) permanently writes my tags into the photo metadata which will be bad if I decide to change something later, b) loses all version sets, and c) loses all albums (although I don't have that many). I found instructions for this workaround at http://www.johnrellis.com/psedbtool/photoshop-elements-faq.htm#_Merging_Catalogs.
2) Live with the lack of color tag display in Organizer, and use reverse searches to find missing tag categories. For example, if I want to find all photos that do not have a "Places" tag, I check the box next to the "Places" category (which also selects all sub-categories and tags below this). Then I go to the Options drop-down in the Find Bar and "Hide best match results" and "Show results that do not match". This gives me every image in my catalog that does not have a tag from the "Places" category, so I can go through and tag these as appropriate.
I would have gone with #1 if it weren't for the permanence of the keywords. I guess I have a commitment problem (or I just haven't got my tag hierarchy figured out yet). Instead, I am going with #2 which should give me most of what I need for now. I will still hold out some small glimmer of hope that Adobe manages a fix for this issue down the road.

Unable to add Keyword Tags in Organizer PSE 9

I am beyond frustrated at this point. I have never run across a more buggy program than PSE9 (or 8 for that matter). I am particularly having trouble with the organizer in PSE 9. I have spent that last day or so tagging a catalogue of about 2000 photos when suddenly the organizer froze up. I killed it and restarted. Then it wouldn't even load. So I thought to load another catalogue to see if that worked. It loaded up just fine. I switched to the catalogue I had had the problem with and PSE pretty much shut my computer down at that point. So, I restarted the computer, loaded up the organizer and actually got it to open the catalogue. I ran a repair on it. It said that it had fixed some errors. Great, I thought, everything is fine. Well, no, it wasn't. Now whenever I attempt to add a keyword tag, delete a keyword tag, or even add a caption, the organizer just gives me an error. It is only happening on this particular catalogue. I have repaired it, optimized it, and even regenerated the thumbnails. I always get an error when I try to edit anything. I can view the pictures just fine. I can open them up from the organizer into the editor just fine. I just can't delete, add captions or keyword tags at this point. If I have lost the all the work I did last night and today tagging these photos, then I am going to be mighty mad. If anyone has any suggestions, then please let me know. I don't want to think that I have wasted time, and most of all, money on this program. Thanks.

I am beyond frustrated at this point. I have never run across a more buggy program than PSE9 (or 8 for that matter). I am particularly having trouble with the organizer in PSE 9. I have spent that last day or so tagging a catalogue of about 2000 photos when suddenly the organizer froze up. I killed it and restarted. Then it wouldn't even load. So I thought to load another catalogue to see if that worked. It loaded up just fine. I switched to the catalogue I had had the problem with and PSE pretty much shut my computer down at that point. So, I restarted the computer, loaded up the organizer and actually got it to open the catalogue. I ran a repair on it. It said that it had fixed some errors. Great, I thought, everything is fine. Well, no, it wasn't. Now whenever I attempt to add a keyword tag, delete a keyword tag, or even add a caption, the organizer just gives me an error. It is only happening on this particular catalogue. I have repaired it, optimized it, and even regenerated the thumbnails. I always get an error when I try to edit anything. I can view the pictures just fine. I can open them up from the organizer into the editor just fine. I just can't delete, add captions or keyword tags at this point. If I have lost the all the work I did last night and today tagging these photos, then I am going to be mighty mad. If anyone has any suggestions, then please let me know. I don't want to think that I have wasted time, and most of all, money on this program. Thanks.

How to use keyword tags effectively in pse 8

No matter what I try, have not been able to make keyword tags work effectively. Have followed all directions from books and others. Even customer support was not able to help.
The problem is that tagged photos will not show up by themselves. All other photos in the catalog open at the same time. The tagged photos sometimes show a blue circle with a white check mark through it. All the other photos show a red circle with a slash accross it in the upper left hand corner of the photos.
Customer support says that that is how the program works. I don't believe it!
Wold uninstalling and reinstalling pse 8 work?
Any other suggestions?

Would you consider suggesting a work-flow for someone who is just starting out with Organizer? (As an aside, if you are familiar with Picasa, would you give your opinion about the relative merits of Picasa and PSE Organizer?)
In all honesty, I can longer recommend the Organizer -- it's buggy, slow, hard to use, and Adobe shows little inclination for fixing bugs that have been around since PSE 6 or earlier. (I use it because I have large catalogs dating back to Photoshop Album 1.) See my review:
http://www.amazon.com/review/R332BXA5A70OL9/ref=cm_cr_rdp_perm
As for alternatives: At the low end, many people are satisfied with the free or almost-free programs: iPhoto, Picasa, Windows Live Photo Gallery (which in my opinion is better than iPhoto). These are fast and easier to use than PSE and can handle thousands of photos. For more sophisticated users with larger catalogs, many people like Lightroom, Aperture, Imatch, Idimager, and ACDsee Pro.

Organizer 9 often gets error adding keyword

I spent more than a week evaluating Organizer 9 for my use by playing with a test catalog with several raw photos from various cameras I have. I tried everything I could think of and posted here a few times asking questions. Everything seemed to be working well. I also saw posts saying some people had 100k photos in Organizer. All looked good. I wanted to be fairly confident before importing my 50k out-of-camera original photos and then spending a lot of time on adding keywords and star ratings since I didn't want to waste all that time and work if Organizer would not be a good fit for what I want or didn't work well. All signals were go.
A few days ago I got started on the real catalog. I turned off all the analyze stuff since I don't need it and it was likely to just slow the computer down. I imported about 50k photos. I then started adding keywords. I first made a pass through all photos and assigned a keyword for each photo that had the country or U.S. state where the photo was taken. No problems.
I then started another pass through all the photos adding one or two more keywords to some of the photos. I have been having problems with this though. I often, but not always, get a pop-up window with a message from Organizer saying it got an error adding a keyword to a photo. I click Okay and then Organizer hangs for several seconds and down at the bottom left of the screen it says Searching. Finally Organizer comes back, but now the thumbnail view doesn't show all the photos -- it shows only a subset. I then click Show all and then spend a lot of time scrolling into the 50k photos and looking for where I left off before the error. I then try to assign the keyword to the photo again and get the error again. I click okay again. This time it also says Searching for a few seconds, but when Organizer is ready again this time the thumbnail view has not changed so that is good. I then add the keyword and this time it works. Whenever I get the error the exact same sequence happens exactly like this with no variations:
1. Error adding keyword
2. Long wait with Searching shown in the lower left
3. Thumbnail view changes
4. I click on Show all and scroll down to where I left off
5. Again try to assign the keyword
6, Error adding keyword again
7. Wait with Searching shown in the lower left
8. This time thumbnail view didn't get changed
9. Try to assign keyword again and this time it succeeds
By the way, the error window I get says: Error Applying Keyword Tag(s). It always is this same sequence. Much of the time I get no errors and then I will get one and go through the above sequence. I often can do a few more with no error and then an error again. It seems to be random. Sometimes it might happen 2 or 3 times in a row and sometimes it takes a long time until it happens again.
I repaired the catalog, but it said there were no errors. I also optimized the catalog. Remember that I have just imported the photos and have been adding keywords. I have not actually made much use of the catalog. I have not been deleting or anything else. Just import and add keywords.
Any ideas? Thanks!

photodrawken wrote:
Where are the photos stored?
Where is the catalog located?
Are you running Windows?
How many drives on your computer, and how much free space on each?
Which drive are you using for your PSE scratch disk?
Ken, thanks for your reply.
The photos are on a 1tb USB 2.0 external hd. The catalog is on my computer local C: drive. I am running Win7 64-bit. The C: drive has 151gb free. The external hd has 245gb free. The PSE scratch disk is the default since I haven't changed anything, I suppose that would be the C: drive.
Adding keywords to all photos on the first round worked without problem. Adding one or two additional keywords to some of the photos on my second round works most of the time, but maybe about 20% of the time I get the error. The error always goes away after the above lengthy, very annoying sequence though and I can continue.

How do i import keyword tags from PSE12?

I have just downloaded PS and LR5 from Adobe CC. I was using Photoshop Elements 12. How can I import my keyword tags from the PSE Organizer. I saved them as .txt files but they will not import because they contain "special characters." What do I do? Please do not tell me I have to start over... ~

is there a way to import tags from PSE 12
The PSE 12 Organizer and LR 5 use different file formats for exporting and importing keyword hierarchies. PSE uses XML format, while LR 5 uses a tab-separated format. If you're a programmer or technically minded, you could convert from one to the other using your favorite scripting language.
But the approach suggested by dj_paige can be modified to accomplish what you want without scripting, by copying the keyword hierarchy from the "upgraded" LR catalog that was created from your PSE catalog to your "good" LR catalog:
1. Make a manual backup of your "good" LR catalog: Lightroom Help | Back up a catalog.
2. In LR, open the catalog that you created previously by upgrading (converting) the PSE catalog -- you can usually get to that catalog by doing File > Open Recent.
3. Go to grid view in the Library by doing Window > Library followed by View > Grid (usually you're already in Library grid view, but just in case...)
4. Make sure the Keyword List panel is showing on the right by doing Window > Panels > Keyword List.
5. You should see the keyword hierarchy from your PSE catalog. If you don't, stop and post a screen shot of the entire LR screen.
6. Do Metadata > Export Keywords to export those keywords as a LR-format text file.
7. Open your "good" LR catalog by doing File > Open Recent.
8. Do Metadata > Import Keywords and select the file you exported in step 6.
9. All the keywords that were exported in step 6 will be added to the current catalog, and there will be duplicate keywords if there were already keywords of the same name in the catalog. Those new keywords will not be attached to any existing photos in the current catalog.

Change keyword tag icon want work

Hi,
I'm new in PSE and encoutert following problem by trying to change the icon for some of my previously assigned keyword tags. The PSE Help instruction says:
By default, Photoshop Elements creates an icon for a keyword from the first photo to which you’ve attached the tag...
Select the tag in the Keyword Tags panel of the Organize tab.
Click the New button , and select Edit from the menu.
Click Edit Icon in the Edit Keyword Tag dialog box.
which only works in my case, when I assign a photo (icon) to a keyword tag for the first time. If I try to change the icon later by above procedure, it doesn't work because the button "Edit Icon" is grayed out.
Thanks in advance for your help.
Helmut72

Hi John,
yes I did. That's it. Thank you very much for your help.
Helmut72

Keyword tags text box poorly designed, crashes PSE 8

I was very interested to see that PSE 8 allows you to enter keyword tags using a text box, as other programs do, promising much faster tagging with large sets of tags. But the feature has serious bugs rendering it unusable.
After trying the keyword-tags text box for less than a minute on my large catalog with 426 tags, PSE 8 crashed.    Even with a fresh catalog and the default tag categories, it will crash after using the text box about 40 times.   (See below for a recipe.)
Another bug concerns tags with commas in them, e.g. "Truckee, CA" (I have a couple hundred such Place tags). If you type "Tru" in the text box, select the tag with the mouse, and hit enter, PSE 8 will create two new tags, Truckee and CA, in the Other category, and apply them to the photo.
A design misfeature: After you select and apply a tag with the text box, it loses the keyboard focus. So to select another tag for the same photo, you have to move your hand to the mouse and click in the text box again. Partially defeats the whole purpose.
Recipe for reproducing the bug:
1. Create a new catalog.
2. Import 50 photos.
3. Select the next photo.
4. In the keyword tag text box, type "p" and then enter.
5. Go to step 3.
On the 40th or 41st photo, my PSE 8 reliably crashes (Vista 32, 4 GB of memory).   If after step 1 you use the Keyword Tags > + > From File command to load a tag heirarchy of 210 tags (see the attached file), it will crash after just 9 photos.   And with 426 tags, it crashes after 5 photos.
Interestingly, on my Vista 64 system (unsupported by Adobe, 8 core x 2.7 GHz), PSE 8 doesn't crash, but the text box gets unusably slow very quickly. WIth 210 keyword tags in the catalog, it soon takes about 12 seconds to find a tag after you type a unique prefix.   That time gradually gets longer the more you use the text box. With 426 tags, it takes almost 20 seconds to apply a tag using the text box.
On both systems, it's clear what the nature of the bug is: Each time you use the text box, the process's memory grows by many megabytes. I believe my Vista 64 system doesn't crash (at least not immediately) because it provides 3.5 GB of memory for use by PSE 8, while Vista 32 only provides about 1.5 GB.
I'm getting a sinking feelilng...

Is the white triangle to the left of "Keyword Tags" pointing down or pointing to the right? See this screen shot:
Click on the white triangle -- does that make a difference?
If not, try deleting the Organizer's preferences:
http://www.johnrellis.com/psedbtool/photoshop-elements-faq.htm#Delete_the_Organizers_prefe rences

PSE 13 "Import Keyword Tags From File" Fails

Whenever I try to do the above command, it fails. As shown in the attached figure it gets to 9%. Does anyone have any ideas on how to troubleshoot this error?
Thanks in advance.

is there a way to import tags from PSE 12
The PSE 12 Organizer and LR 5 use different file formats for exporting and importing keyword hierarchies. PSE uses XML format, while LR 5 uses a tab-separated format. If you're a programmer or technically minded, you could convert from one to the other using your favorite scripting language.
But the approach suggested by dj_paige can be modified to accomplish what you want without scripting, by copying the keyword hierarchy from the "upgraded" LR catalog that was created from your PSE catalog to your "good" LR catalog:
1. Make a manual backup of your "good" LR catalog: Lightroom Help | Back up a catalog.
2. In LR, open the catalog that you created previously by upgrading (converting) the PSE catalog -- you can usually get to that catalog by doing File > Open Recent.
3. Go to grid view in the Library by doing Window > Library followed by View > Grid (usually you're already in Library grid view, but just in case...)
4. Make sure the Keyword List panel is showing on the right by doing Window > Panels > Keyword List.
5. You should see the keyword hierarchy from your PSE catalog. If you don't, stop and post a screen shot of the entire LR screen.
6. Do Metadata > Export Keywords to export those keywords as a LR-format text file.
7. Open your "good" LR catalog by doing File > Open Recent.
8. Do Metadata > Import Keywords and select the file you exported in step 6.
9. All the keywords that were exported in step 6 will be added to the current catalog, and there will be duplicate keywords if there were already keywords of the same name in the catalog. Those new keywords will not be attached to any existing photos in the current catalog.

Associate old keyword tag (name) to a face in PSE 8.0?

I have been using PSE 5 for a while, and am considering the upgrade to 8 .
In the trial version, I saw a nice face recognition engine, with labeling capabilities.
My question is, how to associate the names of people, that I have already labeled
in the old version of PSE, with the new type of tag that is attached to automatically
recognized faces.
I have thousands of images in my catalog, most of them tagged with the names
of the people in them. After importing to PSE 8, the names are considered as
"keyword" tags, but I would like to turn them to face recognition features.
By the way, is there a way to see the list of faces PSE recognizes, and Edit/Arrange them ?
Thanks,
Gideon.

Thanks for your assistance.
Since long time has passed from the time I asked the question, I discovered
a few things.
1) This observation is correct, but since I used to have PSE 5, which does not have face recognition, it does not matter much.
2) This is what I would expect from the program. However, from my question one can understand that it does not actually happen. What I found out since, is that it sometimes happens. I think that generally, if I first tag the image with the names, and then apply the face recognition procedure, the program would identify the tag with the name I gave the face. This does not always happen though (I think). However, if I just apply the face recognition program, and give a face a name (that already exists as a tag), the program adds a new tag with the same name and the association is not made. I believe there are further complications which I have not investigated fully. After the program recognizes a face, by its pattern recognition, and this name already exists as an old name tag, does it actually use this tag, or does it add a new name (assuming the picture was not previously labeled).
3) I would expect the program to perform face recognition on old pictures, which are already labeled with names, for which the program was already trained, by giving priority to these tags in the face recognition.
Gideon

Currently have 30K pics on PC Win. 7 laptop using PSE 8, corrected issues and did full backup on portable hard drive plus saved (Extensive) Keyword tags to file. Installed PSE 13 on PC Win 8.1 laptop. Will attach same portable Hard drive to new laptop.

Currently have 30K pics on PC Win. 7 laptop using PSE 8, corrected issues and did full backup on portable hard drive plus saved (Extensive) Keyword tags to file. Installed PSE 13 on PC Win 8.1 laptop. Will attach same portable Hard drive to new laptop. How do I import prev Keyword Tags from file and Restore catalog from port. HD to new PC and in what order? I have not opened PSE 13 on new PC yet. Would like to do it right the first time!

No importing needed.
See these instructions: Use Backup, Restore to move catalog | Organizer | Elements 6 or later

Imported keyword tags, image tags, main tags in PSE 12

I have converted an older catalog to PSE 12 for Mac. I have tags in Imported Keywords, and that also show up in the Image Tags, but not all show up in the main tags lists (People, Places, Events). How do I get these all in the main tag groups?

Saurabh288--
Yes, now I see the tags under "Image Tags," and if I right click the tag in that spot, I have the option to remove it. Thank you.
As to the Remove Keyword Tag option, "should be" appears to be the operative phrase here. It should be, but in many cases isn't. The option appears for some photos but is grayed out for others, even when the "others" have tags showing under "Image Tags." But I can live without this option working, since the "Image Tags" list gives me a woraround. Thanks again.

Will LR3 automatically transfer keyword tags of photos created in PSE when importing the photos

Hi eveeryone,
I am new to LR3. I would like to import all my photos into LR3 and all these photos have keyword tags that were done in PSE. Will LR3 automatically import the keyword tags too? If not, how would I do it?
Much appreciate your feedback.

The answer is "NO", because importing is the WRONG thing to do here.
The proper procedure is to have LR3 upgrade your PSE catalog. In Lightroom, File->Upgrade PSE Catalog. All your tags will show up in Lightroom as keywords. Couldn't be simpler!
http://help.adobe.com/en_US/Lightroom/3.0/Using/WS217DEA0F-2A78-4445-89CB-4CED1AFA450E.htm l

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