Error bars, error more.
I have updated to my Numbers after Mavericks update. Before that I can use my Numbers smoothly, but after an update, I found that some of my old files cannot open with the new version of Numbers. Furthermore, the error bars of the graph seem to have multiple problems. My program shuts down almost everytime I try to add error bars. And if it does not shut down, one or two bars diappear, e.g., when I added 6 error bars, only 5 showed up, skipping one bar in the middle, and the last error has never shown up. I guess it's the software problem and I hope that Apple will fix it soon. But if any of you know how to troubleshoot these problems, I greatly appreaciate.
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