Error in Settlement & Result Analysis

Dear Experts,
Thanks for the Help provided in understanding WIP & RA.
I have almost done.
Finally one querry is there.
When I run RA (KKA2) it shows WIP. Then I save.
In settlement CJ88 it shows 2 costs:
1. Settlement of Accrued value (WBS to FI P&L, B/S Account).
2. Actual Cost of WBS to Receiver (e.g. Cost Center).
If I do not settle actual cost of WBS, WIP is shown correctly.
When I settle actual cost of WBS to receiver (e.g. Cost Center), WIP is reduced by amount equal to settlement amount. This gives wrong picture.
Question:
Settlement of Acutal cost on WBS is to be done at end of project (TECO) OR It can be settled in between (In my case it gives problem if settled in between).
Please guide.
SSanjay

Hi Raman
If you are using Costing Based COPA - What you are doing is not correct... You should not create Variance acct as cost element
However, if you still wanna do it, then check whether it is the same GL account or a different account which you assigned in OKB9... Just check if this GL in the error msg is there in PA Trf Str FI
If the error msg pertains to PA Trf Str other than FI - Then check whether the Cost ele posted in the Prod order are assigned in that PA Trf Str
br, Ajay M

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