Error while doing GR in third party process

Dear Friends,
While doing Third party process, at GR (w.r.t. inbound delivery) the following message appears Purchase order 4500000087 has no items and stops creating GR. But the P.O has the Item. Do have any clue?
Thanks,
Hari.

Hi Hariharan,
In standard third party process you won't get the goods physically they are delivered by your vendor directly to your customer. In this process there's no meaning of creating inbound delivery I guess...
You can do statistical goods receipt ('ghost GR' as it was called by someone in SD forum) but even this GR isn't a must (it's based on your invoicing scenario).
I'm not sure but I'm afraid you cannot create inbound delivery for it if your settings are proper.
BR
Csaba

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Account dertermination error while doing MIRO for third party PO

Hello,
This is regarding error message while doing MIRO (IR)
There is already a PO in the system with item category S ( Third Party ) &
Acc assignment object u2013 C (Sales order).
For this PO , I could find 10 invoices already posted in the system.
Between when these invoices were posted , there were some changes done to the PO.
But even after those changes , many invoices were posted in the system,
But now , when I try to post the invoice , I am getting the below error message.
the error message is ** Account determination for entry SKPL WRX 0002 _ 1020 not possible** while posting.
Message no. M8147
Diagnosis
The system did not find an account for this transaction. This means that the account determination for key SKPL WRX 0002 _ 1020 is not maintained in MM Customizing (Valuation). The key is made up of:
u2022 Chart of account
u2022 Transaction key (= Posting transaction)
u2022 Valuation grouping code
u2022 Account grouping code
u2022 Valuation class
System Response
The system cannot update a G/L account for this transaction. You cannot post the transaction.
Procedure
Contact your system administrator.
If you have the authorization, check the Account determination in Customizing for Valuation.
Proceed
Note
The relevant posting transaction can be found in Table T030A.
I have checked the entry in OMWD, where valuation grouping code is maintained against the valuation area & company code.
PLEASE SUGGEST ME SOME SOLUTION.
Thanks,
Vinoth

Hi Raman,
Yes, still i am getting error.
before when the invoice is posted , there is no error.
there are some 10 invoices posted already , but there are some changes done in the PO , after that they could post two invoices but for the third invoice , i am getting this error.
when the invoive is posted without error , these are the account movements that are hit
Here
441510 is a vendor account
61799410 is a WBS element G/L account
27411000 is a G/L for tax.
What could have pulled out this WRX error (Account determination for entry SKPL WRX 0002 _1020 not possible ) for me????
can u suggest me some solutions.
Thanks,
Vinoth

Third Party Process - forcing PO creation after error

Hello eveybody,
I am implementing the Third Party Process and everything is going well but I have a question. If I enter say 10 items on a sales order and one material does not have an info record/source list then that item does not get entered on the purchase req. This then blocks the automatic creation of the PO.
If I fix the problem material and re-enter it on the SO, then that item gets ordered but the other 9 are not processed. Is there nany way to force the PO creation for the other 9 items ??
Many thanks in advance.
Brian

Hi Stanton,
When you precess the third party order the purchase requesition will be created to the respective schedule lines so you can get the two different purcahse requesition for the 10 items then you can combine those two purchase requesitions in the purchase order what is the issue.
or you can run another PO for that problem item.
I hope it will not give any problem while creating PO
Thanks,
Murali.

Third party process - error

Dear all,
In the third party process, have we to create outbound delivery?
I have created PO from PR of a third party sales order. And now, i don't understand to delivery to customer.
Pls tell me solution.
If we have to create outbound delivery from that sales order, i get errors:
Item category TAS is not defined and Item category TAS is not defined, so item 000010 will be disregarded. I also checked in VOV4, VOV6, VOV7.
Thank you,

Hi
In third party scenario the material is delivered to your customer thro out side vendor
You are billing your customer
Vendor is billing you for the material he has delivered to your customer
Here we dont make any delivery
Process Flow for 3rd Party Sales
Customize the third party sales in summary:
1. Create Vendor XK01
2. Create Material u2013 Material Type as "Trading Goods". Item category group as "BANS".
3. Assign Item Category TAS to Order type that you are going to use.
4. A sale order is created and when saved a PR is generated at the background
5. With reference to SO a PO is created (ME21N). The company raises PO to the vendor.
6. Vendor delivers the goods and raises bill to company. MM receives the invoice MIRO
7. Goods receipt MIGO
8. Goods issue
9. The item cat TAS or Schedule line cat CS is not relevant for delivery which is evident from the configuration and,   therefore, there is no delivery process attached in the whole process of Third party sales.
10. Billing
SD - 3rd party sales order Create Sales Order
VA01
      Order Type
      Sales org, distribution channel, div
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      Sold to
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      Enter
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SD - 3rd party sales order View the PR that is created with a third party sales order
VA01
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      Go to Item Overview
      Item ->Schedule Item
SD - 3rd party sales order View the PR that is created
ME52N
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      Save
SD - 3rd party sales order Assign the PR to the vendor and create PO
ME57
      Key in the PR number
      Toggle the "Assigned Purchase Requisition"
      Execute
      Check the box next to the material
      Assign Automatically button
      Click on "Assignments" button
      Click on "Process assignment"
      The "Process Assignment Create PO" box , enter
      Drag the PR and drop in the shopping basket
      Save
SD - 3rd party sales order Receive Goods
MIGO_GR
      PO Number
      DN Number
      Batch tab , click on classification
      Serial Numbers tab
      Date of Production
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      Check, just in case
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SD - 3rd party sales order Create Invoice
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      Purchase Order Number (bottom half of the screen)
      Amount
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      Invoice Number
      *Invoice blocked due to date variance
SD - 3rd party sales order Create a delivery order
VL01N
      In the order screen , go to the menu Sales Document , select "Deliver"
      Go to "picking" tab
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SD - 3rd party sales order Create a billing document
VF01
      Ensure that the delivery document is correct in the
      Enter
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Hope the process is very clear to you now
Regards
Raja
Edited by: ramanathan raja on Sep 18, 2008 3:06 PM

Error while doing Goods receipt for process order. Error code: "BS027"

I am getting error while doing GR for a day whereas previous day(s) GR is already done and also 2 days post that day are also done successfully.
Error : ""Goods receipt for prodn. order" is not allowed (ORD XX-CEMTSAL) " (XX = First two characters of plant code)
Error code: BS027.
Thanks to all in advance.

Hello,
This issue would occur when you want to post a confirmation for a production order. The error message is generated if you wanted to post a backflush for a component and if this component was assigned to a sales order stock. The sales order itself was assigned to a work breakdown structure element which should be debited with the actual costs. However, the business transaction 'Confirm' is not permitted for a work breakdown structure.
Please look into SAP Note 62367 and 64370
Hope the information is helpful
regards

Third Party Process and Inventory

We are using the SAP function "Third-Party Processing". We are using the function in it's standard (SAP R/3 4.7).
The auditor now has the following issue: Shipping the goods starts after paying the goods. Out of this, while shipping the goods, we are the owner of them. In this circumstance the ship is our warehouse.
SAP does not allow an Inventory Management within Third-Party Processing:
"Since a third-party order involves a movement from the vendor direct to the customer, Inventory Management is not in any way affected. If you wish to document the movement in the system, however, you can create a goods receipt for the third-party order."
With the SAP functions in this scenario it is correct that the warehouse stock is not being impacted. This is a conflict with the opinion of the auditor.
Let me explain in detail what is wrong out of the view of our auditor:
For example we initiated the order of a customer in June and we have paid the goods in June. The shipment starts in June and the goods will arive in July. Due to the fact, that we are the owner of the goods on the ship, we have to increase the stock. This is the opinion of our auditor.
Does any body know, how to solve the issue? How do you manage Third Party Processing & Inventory?

Some auditors just dont understand the SAP process. Instead of talking to weak users, they should talk to SAP directly.
What about shipments from standard sales orders that are shipped end of June and do arrive at the customer in July?
When do you bill your customer? when the goods arrives there, or earlier? Depending on the Incoterms you may still be the owner until the truck is unloaded.
If you change your process and post goods receipt to your warehouse, then you show inventory where no physical inventory is, you posted a goods receipt without a physical receipt. I am sure the next auditor will not allow such therotical process.
Get together, IT consultants of FI and MM and SD, strong business people for the same modules and the auditor, and discuss and find an optimal solution.And let the auidor sign the decision paper!!! Very important, I recently had to convice German auditors because they had different opinion than the Australian and US auditors of the same auditing company (and the issue had nothing to do with local legal requirements).

Problem in third party processing billing document

dear all,
I am facing problem in creating the billing document for third party processing.
The error is : Item category ZEXM TAS cannot be invoiced by using billing type ZFAZ.
I think the problem is in copy control for billing document item . Kindly tell the solution.
Thanks...

Dear Buddi ,
Now , the billing document is getting saved after changing the copy control for item category.
But , the system is giving error ( The accounting document is not generated ) .
I have checked all the settings in VKOA against the account keys maintained in pricing procedure for this merchant exports case.
One another problem related to this issue is : Which setting is required to capture the Price maintained in item - > conditions at the VA01 level in EUR or USD . I have maintained the condition record in EUR in VK11 , but still while making order , the error is coming mandatory condition type ZBPR( Basic Price ) is missing .
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Logical GR in Third Party Process

Hi Friends
There is logical GR involved in third party process. What if we do not want to trigger it?

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Credit Check with Third Party Process

Hi Gurz,
I know about third party process but my problem is with credit check of the customers.
If customer has not got enough credit limit to process the order in normal senario credit controller has to manually release the order as system blocks it. In third party process system will give you warning message when saving sales order about customer credit limit but allows you to save sales order. Once saving sales order it authomatically creates Purchase Requisition. From PR purchasing creates P.O. with out knowing about customer credit limit issue. and so on. In other words goods supplied to customer even though credit limit has exceeded. This user don't know untill raising the invoice to the customer which is too late.
Can we stop creating Purchase requisition or block purchase requistion for credit check ? or there are better way of handling the process for credit check?
Thanks in advance

Hi,
Try to implement OSS note -738171 - Delivery block does not influence purchase requisition.
Following is the details of the note;
Summary
Symptom
The delivery block in a sales order does not prevent the generattion of the purchase requisition in a third-party or individual purchase order item. Regardless of the Customizing settings in the delivery block, the system confirms the TAB or TAS item and generates the purchase requisition.
More Terms
Order, purchase requisition, PReq, TAB, individual purchase order, individual purchase order item, TAS, third-party, third-party item, SD order, delivery block, VBAK-LIFSK, VBEP-LIFSP
Cause and Prerequisites
Solution
Create a user-specific user requirement (for example, 902: BEDINGUNG_PRUEFEN_902 in Include LV07A902) as a copy of standard user requirement 102 and assign it to requirement 'Preq' by using Transaction OVB5.
In the source code of the user-requirement, program a check for the delivery block which, if necessary, triggers an ERROR_EXCEPTION which prevents the generation of the purchase requisition.
You can use the existing check for the credit block as a template.
Regards,

Third Party Process in Materail Management (No SD)

Hi,
Our Business would like to outsource the Stationary materials to supply the required materials directly to requester.
I believe the best possible solution for this requirement is to implement third party process in Material management as we do not have SD Module.
In this scenario, which material type we need to use (Item category group, Field ref, Sref material type and field ref) and the config part.
Secondly, does it have any effect on MRP, Stock levels? Also please explain the process involved in Goods returns
Appreciate, if you could share your experiences.
Regards
Kumar

Creating a Third-Party Item Manually
To enter a third-party item in a purchase order without an SD order or purchase requisition, proceed as follows:
Enter a third-party item manually in the same way as the purchase requisition.
After entering the account assignment, you receive a screen in which you can enter the address of the sold-to party.
Enter either the customer number or a delivery address.
Check whether goods receipts can be made for the third-party item. Goods receipts are possible if the goods receipt indicator is set in the item.
Save the purchase order.
Setting the Goods Receipt Indicator
The account assignment category X in the Customizing system of Purchasing determines whether a goods receipt can be posted for a third-party item. Here you define whether a goods receipt is possible, not allowed or compulsory.
If a goods receipt is possible, the GR indicator in the purchase order item is changeable. When you enter the purchase order, you decide if a goods receipt is to be posted or not.
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For Return you can do return to your plant or ask vendor to pivk and replace the goods or issue the creadite to customer and take from vendor

Ship to party and vendor relation in third party process

Hello Experts,
I need your precious suggestions on my business requirement.
When we create the third party sales order system creates the Purchase Requisition and further PO is created through purchasing department.
Suppose in my third party sales order I have two items X & Y, and both need to deliver at two different ship to party XXX & YYY respectively. in order system determine plant 1000 for both materials based on plant determination (CMIR >> CMR >> MMR) and system generates PR.
I know while converting the PR to PO system check Source list (ME01) to determine the vendor. my requirement is I want to determine Vendor based on ship to party in sales order. suppose ship to party locations for XXX and YYY are Bangalore and Pune respectively and in both place we have different vendor. Both vendor manufacture product X & Y. so I want system should pick the vendor according to ship to party.
Is there any relation between ship to party and vendor which will work in third party processing ?
Kindly explain how I can achieve this requirement.
Thanks,

I doubt this can't be achieved by SAP standard functionality. You may need to use user exit. Check Third party to purchase req user exit or purchase req user exit to fulfill the requirement.
Regards,

Delivery date should be confirmed in third party process

Dear Experts,
I have one doubt in third party process i.e., while creating sales order how can we confirm the delivery date because here vendor deliver the goods to customer but if customer is asking for delivery on a particular date then how can we assure him the delivery date is there any tracking in standard or how to solve this requirement.

Dear Venkatesh
In the third party Process, the Vendor will deliver the goods. That is correct. so as per my experience the delivery dates will get copied to Sales order ----- PR ----then PO. Then the vendor will also deliver the goods on the date which is mentioned copied into PO only.
Also refer to the below link to gain complete knowledge to clear your doubt.
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_scm700_ehp02/helpdata/EN/c1/42c95360267614e10000000a174cb4/frameset.htm
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Transportation Module In Third party process

Dear Gurus,
Required to implement transportation module in third party process and we do not want to take material in.
Division directly doing invoice against sales order.
S.O.
P.O.
Invoice
thanks
Please revert if required more information.

Hi,
In standrad application it is not possible. however, there is a user exit here, EXIT_SAPLMMDA_001, in which you can implement your own logic to select the address.
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GR in Third Party Process

Friends
I read threads regarding Third Party Process but it made me more confused. Jus want some clarification.
1.Does GR take place in third party process or not and if not then how can we make it happen.
2.We want customer invoice to be created before MIRO. Can we do it. If yes then how.

Hi,
1) There are two types of Third Party Processes: -
a) Third Party Process without Shipping Notification
b) Third Party Process with Shipping Notification.
Third Party Process without Shipping Notification
In third-party order processing, your company does not deliver the items requested by a customer. Instead, you pass the order along to a third-party vendor who then ships the goods directly to the customer and bills you. The standard sales order automatically creates a purchase requisition for the materials to be delivered by the third-party vendor.
The incoming invoice from the vendor updates the billing quantity, so that the customer-billing document can only be created after entering the invoice from the vendor.
Process flow: Third party Sales Order --> Convert purchase requisitions to purchase order --> Approval of purchase orders --> Invoice verification --> Billing
Third Party Process with Shipping Notification
For this process, the vendor sends a shipping notification. The incoming invoice from the vendor updates the billing quantity, so that the customer-billing document is only possible after entering the invoice from the vendor.
The vendor then sends a shipping notification. After that a statistical goods receipt is posted. The incoming invoice from the vendor updates the billing quantity, so that the customer-billing document can only be created after entering the invoice from the vendor.
Process flow: Third Party Sales Order --> Convert Purchase Requisitions to Purchase Order --> Approval of Purchase Orders --> Post Statistical Goods Receipt --> Invoice verification --> Billing
So, technically the 3rd Party Sales w/o SN is commonly used - whereby no GR is required. GI and GR process is between the vendor and the customer in the Sales Order. Once customer confirmed received, only then there will be incoming invoice from the Vendor, which then MIRO and Billing follows..
2. Standard SAP practice.. it is recommended to perform MIRO before Billing, as the vendor has to advice us that our customer has received the goods of the quantity ordered, which only then we can bill the customer according to the quantity received by the customer.
Thanks.
Hope this helps.
Rgds.

Intercompany invoice not getting created in third party processing

Dear Gurus !
I am facing a problem in creating the intercompany invoice in case of third party order processing.
In our organisation , for any type of sale two billing documents are creared :
1) Commercial Invoice under the co. code for which sales org. is maintained at the sales order bookin level .
2) Intercompany Invoice under the co. code in which plant is maintained which is used at the sales order level as delivering plant.
So, as per the configuration req. for third party processing , i have created Sales order ( with automatic Purchase requistion generated ) , Purchase order creation with reference to the Purchase requisition , goods reciept ( MIGO ) and invoice reciept ( MIRO ) , then billing doc. or commercial invoice ( VF01 ) with the generation of accounting document and finally the intercompany invoice ( VF01 ) .
But i am facing the problem in final stage , that is , intercompany invoice creation .
Error Message : No open billing quantity has been determined .
I have checked the copy control for sales order to intercompany invoice and still not able to resolve it .
Please reply which setting needs to be done for this .
Awaiting your response , that what copy control settings is required .
Thanks .....

Hi Buddi / Mahesh / Kiran ,
It ' s good to see all of your opinion . But my problem has not been resolved .
I am implementing third party processing in my organisation , where the customer is an export customer ( outside India ) . Hence , this is a merchant export .
All the configurations / Customisations have been done for this process .
The process is running fine till commercial invoice , but the problem is in intercompany billing doc. creation.
I am again repeating - Error message : No open billing quantity has been determined.
Explanation of the process :
1) The order has been booked with item category TAS alongwith the item cat. group as BANS for the material used in the order .
2) The sales area is 1020 / 30 / 35 . Here , 1020 is sales org . under company code 0079 , 30 is export's distribution channel and 35 is the division for components .
3) The delivering plant used in the sales order is 1009 which is under co. code 0077. The price / condition record maintained for this material is in USD / EUR as it is a case of merchant export .
4) The purchase requisition is generated automatically when the order is saved . It can be seen at VA02 - > Item details - > Schedule Lines .
5) With the help of this PR no. , i have created a purchase order for vendor which is maintained under co. code 0077 asking for material in plant 1009 which we need to export / supply to the customer.
6) The value of material per piece in the P.O. is coming from the material master record -> Accounting 1 view - > Moving av. Price .
7) Now, the Purchase order is saved . With the help of this P.O. no. , goods reciept ( MIGO )is done .
8) After MIGO , Invoice reciept or MIRO is done under company code 0077.
9) After MIRO , customer ' s invoice is created through VF01 .
Remember : This is an order relevant billing , no delivery or PGI will happen here because the material is not coming into the plant 1009 .
10)The billing document ( order - related billing doc.) is created and the accounting document is also created under co. code 0079 in USD .
Till this stage , everything is running successfully as per business requirement , but i am facing the problem in the final stage , that is creation of intercompany invoice under co. code 0077 which is in INR .
In all other sales document types used in our industry , the process is same , that is : a) Sales order creation b) Delivery and PGI c) Billing doc. creation with accounting doc. under co. code 0079 and finally d) Intercompany invoice with accounting doc. under co. code 0077 and excise invoice creation with reference to intercompany invoice.
In the above, problem is not there becuase orde is delivery relevant , hence copy control is maintained for interco. billing to delivery type.
But in the new process , that is , third party processing , sales order relevant billing is done . so i suppose there will be a copy control for intercompany billing and sales doc. type , but i am not able to resolve it .
Hence , please understand the process before suggesting .
Thanks and awaits reply........

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